[tlhIngan Hol] {'e'} of a sao in {law'} {puS} constructions

Steven Boozer sboozer at uchicago.edu
Tue Aug 24 07:12:53 PDT 2021

Okrand once communicated privately with members of the Klingon Shakespeare Restoration Project (KSRP) that pronouns (being a subset of nouns) could indeed be used with stative verbs (i.e. Okrand’s “qualities”).  Thus, {SoH po' law' jIH po' puS} is correct.  (Cf. HQ 4.2 p.3)

More examples for those keeping track:

qIbDaq SuvwI''e' SoH Dun law' Hoch Dun puS
You would be the greatest warrior in the galaxy.  (ST5)

jIH qan law’ SoH qan puS
I'm older than you.  (Lieven < Okrand, 7/25/2016)

jIH Qup law’ SoH Qup puS
I'm younger than you.  (Lieven < Okrand, 7/25/2016)

cha’ DISmo’ jIH qan law’ SoH qan puS
I'm two years older than you.  (Lieven < Okrand, 7/25/2016)

cha’ ’ujmo’ jIH woch law’ SoH woch puS
I'm two 'ujes taller than you.  (Lieven < Okrand, 7/25/2016)


From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces at lists.kli.org> On Behalf Of SuStel

On 8/24/2021 8:16 AM, Lieven L. Litaer wrote:
Am 24.08.2021 um 14:06 schrieb mayqel qunen'oS:

The question is whether this use of {'e'} in a law'/puS construction
could be considered to be correct. But I think that it isn't, because in the slots of a law'/puS construction the only thing allowed is either a noun, or a pronoun as {jIH}, {SoH}, {ghaH}, etc, because pronouns can act like nouns too.

I think you are right saying that it is not allowed, but I'd explain it
differently, based on how the sentence as object works, from TKD:

"[pronouns 'e' and net] are used primarily, not exclusively, with verbs
of thinking or observation (such as "know, see"). They are always
treated as the object of the verb."

And a noun in a comparative or superlative sentence is not an object.

There is no prohibition against using pronouns in comparatives/superlatives. For example, jIH Doy' law' SoH Doy' puS I am more tired than you are. http://klingonska.org/canon/2004-03-holqed-13-1.txt<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/klingonska.org/canon/2004-03-holqed-13-1.txt__;!!BpyFHLRN4TMTrA!u1KCeI70b1jZ0fF98wCJvKOryujLhpJqeYW-_0B9lks3djsq_3JS7tyy4mceVvhRot4$>



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