[tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: chal bIQ

Will Martin willmartin2 at mac.com
Thu Mar 12 06:48:36 PDT 2020


I didn’t skip over the message he was replying to. He apparently didn’t quote the message he was replying to and that message is either deleted or I never received it.

Given sight of the previously missing information, I obviously agree.

charghwI’ vaghnerya’ngan

rInpa’ bomnIS be’’a’ pI’.

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 3:15 AM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 04:46, Will Martin <willmartin2 at mac.com <mailto:willmartin2 at mac.com>> wrote:
> > On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Scott D. Randel <amavocet at comcast.net <mailto:amavocet at comcast.net>> wrote:
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> > It sounds to me like a better translation would be "rainwater."  
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> Not all Klingon word combinations are rationalized English translations. If a Klingon thinks “sky water” is what we call “rain” he could very well think what we call “rain water” is just “water”. 
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> No, he's absolutely right. Did you skip over the message he was replying to?
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> The English term considers the source, whereas the Klingon term considers the current location. 
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> No, the Klingon term is also specifically about the source. Quoting Okrand: <Maltz said that you'd probably only say this if, for example, you were referring to, say, a puddle of water on the ground and wanted to be clear that the puddle resulted from rain and not some other source or if you wanted to say what it is that's dripping from your wet head since you didn't just step out of the shower>.
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> That's definitely rainwater, not (falling) rain. 
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> On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 at 16:48, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu <mailto:sboozer at uchicago.edu>> wrote:
> Klingon word: chal bIQ
> Part of speech: noun
> Definition: rain
> Source: qep'a' 24
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> (qep’a’ 2017):  refers to the water itself, not the rain falling from the sky
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> (qurgh, 7/2017):  Maltz said that you'd probably only say this if, for example, you were referring to, say, a puddle of water on the ground and wanted to be clear that the puddle resulted from rain and not some other source or if you wanted to say what it is that's dripping from your wet head since you didn't just step out of the shower (obviously you didn't -- you're a Klingon). Otherwise the puddle or hair water would be simply {bIQ} (perhaps with some modifier or other).
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