[tlhIngan Hol] Klingon for "deference" (the legal term)?

Lieven L. Litaer levinius at gmx.de
Thu Mar 12 06:41:21 PDT 2020


I'll leave it to experts of the English language to answer that
question, because I'm not so sure about its meaning.

But generally spoken, it's always a bit stupid to say "there is no
Klingon word for X", because in many situations, there might indeed be
no word, but it's still possible to express the same idea. A simple
example is that there is no verb "love", but {muSHa'} perfectly conveys
the idea.

Regarding "reference", which seems to be some kind of respect, the first
thing that comes to my mind is the verb {vuv} "respect", the verb {yI'}
"speak in honorable fashion" and the noun {gha'tlhIq} "ode of respect".

But I might be wrong ybput the definition of "reference", and I'm not a
lawyer.


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Lieven L. Litaer
aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany"
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Am 12.03.2020 um 14:27 schrieb Sai:
> Norwood v. Vance, 572 F. 3d 626, 630 (9th Cir. 2009) says:
>
> "The district court declined to give the proposed instruction because the meaning of deference would not be "clear to a lay person." But "deference" is not Urdu or Klingon; it is a common English word. See, e.g., Michael Crichton, Airframe 78 (1996) ("[S]he certainly knew where all the bodies were buried. Within the company, she was treated with a deference bordering on fear."). It may be true that deference has varied meanings, Dissent at 8515 n. 4, but so do most English words. If the district judge believed the term needed further context or definition, he could have provided it."
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> dissent n. 4:
> "(I must, however, acknowledge that the majority is quite correct in intuiting that, unsurprisingly, there is no Klingon word for "deference." See generally Marc Okrand, THE KLINGON DICTIONARY (Star Trek 1992)"
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> <https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7908441514095692961>
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> Black's Law Dictionary (9th Ed. 2009) defines:
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> defer, vb. (17c) 2. To show deference to (another); to yield to the opinion of <because it was a political question, the courts deferred to the legislature>.
>
> due deference. The appropriate degree of respect with which a reviewing authority must consider the decision of a primary decision-maker.
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> Chevron deference. A two-part test under which a court will uphold a federal agency's construction of a federal statute if (1) the statute is ambiguous or does not address the question at issue, and (2) the agency's interpretation of the statute is reasonable.• If the court finds that the legislature's intent is clearly expressed in the statute, then that intent is upheld.
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>
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> So: what, if anything, is Klingon for "deference"?
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> If there isn't a word/phrase for it, and circumlocution would be culturally permitted, what would that be?
>
> Sincerely,
> Sai
> Founder, Language Creation Society
>
>
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