[tlhIngan Hol] among the various time telling methods is there a formal one

SuStel sustel at trimboli.name
Wed Jul 29 08:12:28 PDT 2020


On 7/27/2020 7:54 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
> I've been going through the various time telling methods.
>
> method #1:
> (from: "maltz online", HolQeD 8:1, pages 7-12)
>
> tera' rep loS wejmaH
> "Earth hour 4:30"
>
> method #2:
> (same source)
>
> cha'logh Qoylu'pu'.
>
> method #3:
> (Eurotalk TalkNow! Klingon)
>
> Five to twelve (11:55) a.m.
> wa'maH wa'vatlh vaghmaH vagh rep
> 11:55 p.m. (23:55)
> cha'maH wejvatlh vaghmaH vagh rep
>
> As far as the first two methods are concerned, I read okrand's
> explanation with regards to when they are to be used and/or how and
> why each method originated. Strangely though, I didn't see in the
> eurotalk any description as to when this specific method of telling
> time is to be used, or how it originated in the first place.
>
> Which brings me to the question of this post..
>
> Among the various time telling methods, is there a method which is
> supposed to be used in more formal settings than the rest ?
>
> And when I say "formal settings" I mean weddings, court trials,
> religious texts, etc.

"Formal" and "traditional" isn't the right way to categorize this. In 
the Maltz Online article, Okrand says that Klingons use the *tera' rep 
*twenty-four hour system "in dealing with time in interplanetary 
communication." He says "in nonmilitary contexts (rare as these may be) 
and situations where interplanetary communication is not a concern," 
Klingons' "most common" method is the *Qoylu'pu'* style.**Neither the 
/Conversational Klingon/ style nor the expanded version of it in 
/TalkNow!/ are given contexts in which they are used. CK simply says 
"Klingons have adopted the way most civilized planets in the galaxy tell 
time."

So we have the information that MOST time-telling is in a military 
context and uses SOME kind of twenty-four hour system. We have two 
different versions of these, putting the word *rep* either before or 
after the numbers, one of which also includes *vatlh*. We don't know for 
sure whether the *vatlh* version is used specifically in military 
contexts; I would guess that it is. It seems to simply be a slightly 
different formation.

So my guesses would be:

Weddings: *Qoylu'pu'* style, unless the wedding takes place on a ship or 
military installation.

Court Trials: I find it hard to believe that Klingons have any 
nonmilitary courts, so I would expect one of the 24-hour styles.

Religious Texts: Klingons clearly didn't adopt 24-hour time until they 
got to know Humans, so ancient religious texts would obviously use 
*Qoylu'pu'* style, unless there were some other style we don't know 
about. Religion to Klingons seems to be separate from the military, so I 
would guess even modern religious texts would use *Qoylu'pu'* style. 
However, we know that Klingon religion extends to Klingon planets beyond 
Kronos, so maybe this would be a case for an interplanetary 24-hour 
system. "Interplanetary" might have meant "between Klingon planets and 
non-Klingon planets," in which case one wonders whether Klingon monks 
would bother using 24-hour time.

Note also in CK that Klingons use 24-hour time with Terran tourists and 
that tourists' movements are restricted on Klingon planets. It's 
possible that different areas of a Klingon planet use different 
nonmilitary time systems to accommodate the locals.

I would also expect each planet to bend the rules to accommodate varying 
planetary rotation speeds.

-- 
SuStel
http://trimboli.name

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