[tlhIngan Hol] is De' "data, information" countable ?

mayqel qunen'oS mihkoun at gmail.com
Fri Jul 10 07:09:48 PDT 2020


SuStel:
> It has never been used countably. I would
> go with De' lo'laH wISuqpu'. Kruge says
> De' yIlI', not  De' tIlI'. De' lI' Sovlu'DI', not
> De' lI' luSovlu'DI'. Vixis says De' wIHevtaH, > not De' DIHevtaH.

ok, thanks. I wasn't aware of these examples, which answer as well the next
thing I was wondering, with regards to if we should write {De' law'} or
{De' vItlh} for "many information". I guess {De' vItlh} would be the
preferable choice, since {vItlh} "is used for things that are measurable or
quantifiable, but not necessarily countable".

Although, since we have the Ca'Non example of:

{chIch vay' 'oy'moHmeH 'oy'naQ 'ul law' tlhuD 'oH}
Painstiks ... emit a highly ­charged shock for the express purpose of
inflicting pain. S32

One could wonder what would be the actual difference in meaning (if any),
between writing {De' law'} and {De' vItlh}.

jIH:
> If we want to say "we obtained valuable
> informations"
lieven:
> That's an error that non-native English
> speakers do very often

True ! In fact, the reason I've wondered about all this in the first place,
is because in greek the word "information" is countable, and it would sound
wrong to say "we obtained valuable information (singular)".

~ Qa'yIn
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