[tlhIngan Hol] New Words from DIS 2889

Jackson Bradley j.monroe.bradley at gmail.com
Wed Jan 29 08:01:02 PST 2020


And to be clear, I specifically asked about how to say *read a book aloud*.
I imagine that one can also say things like *De' chu' ghItlh mu'(mey)
jatlh*, *ghuQ mu'(mey) jatlh*, etc.

Le mer. 29 janv. 2020, à 09 h 10, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> a écrit :

> On 1/29/2020 9:59 AM, Lieven L. Litaer wrote:
>
> Am 29.01.2020 um 15:44 schrieb SuStel:
>
> We are told that *Suvchu'* means /fight to the death,/ so wherever we
> see that word we should interpret it that way. (I disagree with Lieven
>
>
> Of course you do.
>
> This sort of response is unnecessary, unhelpful, and deliberately
> provocative.
>
>
> that *Suvchu'* means */fight to the death/* when it refers to what
> Klingons think but just */fight perfectly/* when it refers to what
> Terrans
> footballers might think.
>
>
> But that's what KGT says, and there's a reason for it to say it. I quote
> again, in case you over-read it:
>
> "From the Klingon point of view, {Suvchu'} ("fight perfectly") is "fight
> to the death." (KGT, p. 49)
>
> Yes, it's from the Klingon point of view. And I explained my thinking:
> this phrase means that the Klingon language reflects the Klingon point of
> view, not that the meaning changes depending on the point of view of who
> says it or whom it's about.
>
> Now, it's perfectly fine if you want to disagree with me on that. But I
> did not "over-read" it.
>
>
> This is the language of the Klingons,
>
>
> This moves back to the arguing of "Klingons would not say that", so I'd
> prefer to stay out of this kind of discussion.
>
> You are incorrect. I'm not concluding anything what Klingons would or
> would not say. KGT is saying what a phrase means, and it points to Klingon
> culture as the source of that meaning. That's all.
>
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