[tlhIngan Hol] can we place type-5 noun suffixes on the {'e'} of a sao ?

Will Martin willmartin2 at mac.com
Wed Jan 15 07:03:14 PST 2020


qatlho’. This is exactly the answer I was looking for.

charghwI’ vaghnerya’ngan

rInpa’ bomnIS be’’a’ pI’.




> On Jan 15, 2020, at 9:55 AM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
> 
> {verengan 'opuHwI' ghaH SoSlI''e'; 'e''e' wISovmo', not Qang Damoj}
> Your mother is a ferengi prostitute; because we know THAT, you will never become a chancellor
> 
> On 1/15/2020 9:41 AM, Will Martin wrote:
>> I’m just curious. What does this rather complex construction give you that the simpler {verengan ‘opuHwI’ ghaHmo’ SoSlI’’e’, not Qang Damoj} fails to convey?
> Emphasis.
> 
> tlhIngan wa': Qang vImoj 'e' vIHech. jIHoS! jIval! jI'IH! jInIvmo' Qang vIgheS 'e' vIqotlh.
> 
> tlhIngan cha': bIHoSbej. bIvalbej. bI'IHbej. 'ach verengan 'opuHwI' ghaH SoSlI''e'. 'e''e' wISovmo', not Qang Damoj.
> 
> Klingon One: I intend to become chancellor. I'm powerful! Clever! Good-looking! Because I'm superior, I deserve to take on the mantle of chancellor.
> 
> Klingon Two: You certainly are powerful, clever, and good-looking. But your mother is a Ferengi prostitute. Because we know THAT, you will never become chancellor.
> 
> It's not necessarily the most concise way to say something like this, but it places emphasis on the THAT which your alternative doesn't. The emphasis makes it clear that it's DESPITE all those things going for you that you won't become chancellor. If the second Klingon had simply said:
> 
> bIHoSbej. bIvalbej. bI'IHbej. 'ach verengan 'opuHwI' ghaHmo' SoSlI''e', not Qang Damoj.
> 
> You certainly are powerful, clever, and good-looking. But because your mother is a Ferengi prostitute, you will never become chancellor.
> 
> then the emphasis on the implied despite doesn't appear.
> 
> Anyway, the point of the question was not to convey any particular idea, it was to construct a grammatical sentence that included a type 5 suffix on 'e'.
> 
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