[tlhIngan Hol] meaning of an {x-mo' verb-be'} sentence

Will Martin willmartin2 at mac.com
Sat Jan 11 05:06:30 PST 2020


The point everyone who makes this argument overreacts to is that I never say, “YOU can’t say that.” I make it clear that the grammar allows it. I just say that a Klingon probably wouldn’t say that for cultural reasons, and SuStel consistently jumps down my throat for saying a thing he personally forbids on this list. 

I never suggest that it is more than an opinion. The passion of the objection suggests that I’m trying to take over this list and rip the language out of Okrand’s fingers, claiming it as mine to shape and modify to my whims. 

It’s pretty silly, really. 

Get over yourselves. 

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> On Jan 11, 2020, at 6:03 AM, mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I believe, this whole matter has to do, with each person's motives..
> 
> If someone's into roleplaying/cosplaying, then yes, what a klingon would or wouldn't say, is important (for him only).
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> But there are those of us, who don't learn klingon for the purposes of roleplaying..
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> I was always irritated, and still am, when I read the argument "a klingon wouldn't say that", because when I ask, I ask about grammar, and not with regards to what a klingon would and would not say.
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> If for example I wanted to say: "I'm afraid to face whatever", I didn't know how, and asked for help, then the last thing I'd want to hear is "klingons wouldn't say that", because I simply do not care..
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> Let alone the fact, that if there were real klingons, they wouldn't be using a language crawling with terran puns.
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> Anyways, don't get me wrong; I respect 100% each person's choices, and if there's something noone here can accuse the other of, is that he loves klingon less.
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> We're all good klingon patriots here..
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> And it would be boring if we all had the same approach to the language.
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> But I just think, that the argument "a klingon wouldn't say that", has no place in a discussion concerning grammar, unless of course someone insists on intentionally breaking the rules of holy Ca'Non, or translates idioms from a terran language in klingon.
> 
> To me it's like someone telling me: "whenever you use english, talk/behave like an englishman".
> 
> ~ mayqel qunen'oS
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