[tlhIngan Hol] ordering of multiple adverbials

Steven Boozer sboozer at uchicago.edu
Mon Sep 16 12:22:52 PDT 2019


If you ignore the English translations, how can you tell which adverbial is "the most important one"   for Okrand?  In fact, why would one necessarily be more important than the other(s)?  Each modifies or comments on what follows:

> bIvangqa'laH
> batlh bIvangqa'laH
> chaq batlh bIvangqa'laH

> Heghmo'
> batlh Heghmo'
> tugh batlh Heghmo'
> chaq tugh batlh Heghmo'

> charghmo'
> tugh charghmo'
> chaq tugh charghmo'

> SuvtaHjaj chaH
> batlh SuvtaHjaj chaH
> reH batlh SuvtaHjaj chaH

> joqqu'
> pe'vIl joqqu'
> vaj pe'vIl joqqu'

--
Voragh


-------------------------Original Message-------------------------
From: mayqel qunen'oS

Read the following paq'batlh sentences, mentioned by nIqolay Q at another thread:

> loDnI'wI'
>    bIQeHba'
>    chaq batlh bIvangqa'laH
> My brother, I see your anger,
>    You might have a chance
>    To make amends.

> jatlh 'e' mevDI' qeylIS, lop
>    chaq tugh batlh Heghmo'
>    'ej chaq tugh charghmo'
> After Kahless’s words, they celebrate, 
>    For they may soon die with honor!
>    For they may soon be victorious!

> jIlay'ta' 'ej batlh jIpabta'
>    vaj choDanIS
>    reH batlh SuvtaHjaj chaH
> I have kept my word of honor,
>    And so should you,
>    Let endless battle and honor await them!

> Hay'chu' luneHqu'
>    vaj pe'vIl joqqu'
>    cha' tlhIngan tIqDu'
> Both Klingon hearts beat,
>    At their strongest,
>    In lust for blood.

Now, @!#!@#!! the english translations, and lets focus on the klingon ones.

I get the impression from reading the sentences of the original klingon, that the adverbial written last, is the most important one, as far as the meaning of the sentence is concerned.

Does anyone want to comment anything on this impression of mine ?



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