[tlhIngan Hol] Hoch, {-pu'}/{-mey}, the indefinite, and cats

Jeffrey Clark jmclark85 at gmail.com
Fri May 17 08:19:29 PDT 2019

Wouldn’t {Hoch vIghro’ luleghlu’} be “Someone sees each cat”?

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> On May 17, 2019, at 09:16, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
>> On 5/17/2019 8:49 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
>> vIghro' luleghlu'
>> someone sees the cats
>> vIghro'mey luleghlu'
>> someone sees the cats
>> Both of the above are equally correct, since the plural is shown by
>> the {lu-}, and of course plural suffixes are optional, where the
>> context is clear.
>> But suppose, I want to say "someone sees all cats"; what do I write ?
>> Is {Hoch vIghro' luleghlu'} sufficient/correct, because the plurality
>> is shown by the {lu-}, or is writing here {Hoch vIghro'mey luleghlu'}
>> actually mandatory, because {Hoch vIghro' luleghlu'} could be
>> understood as "someone sees all each cat" ?
> The rule is that to get the all X's meaning from Hoch, you have to use an explicit plural suffix, not that the noun phrase has to be unambiguously plural. The only correct answer is Hoch vIghro'mey luleghlu' all cats are seen.
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