[tlhIngan Hol] ghItlh and jatlh

SuStel sustel at trimboli.name
Tue Mar 12 08:52:19 PDT 2019

On 3/12/2019 11:42 AM, SuStel wrote:
> On 3/12/2019 11:27 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
>> Is ghItlh to be treated as jatlh, with regards to quotations and 
>> reporting things others have written ?
> No.
> So far as I know, only *jatlh* and *ja'* have been confirmed as "verbs 
> of saying." *tlhob* is used as a verb of saying in /Power Klingon,/ 
> but in his interview with charghwI' about this 
> <http://klingonska.org/canon/1998-12-holqed-07-4.txt>, he says that 
> *tlhob, jang, *and*ghel* aren't used as verbs of saying. He was asked 
> about and failed to answer to *bach* (slang), *chel, chup, jach,* and 
> *SIv.*
He also used *jang* as a verb of saying three times in /paq'batlh,/ if 
these aren't some of those lines translated by someone else. Here's the 

    *lujang meQboghnom 'oH
         Daw' je joqwI'

    /They reply it is the meQboghnom,
         The banner of unity
         And revolution.

The word *ra'* specifically avoids being a verb of saying in 
/paq'batlh,/ and then in the very next stanza *jang *is used as a verb 
of saying again:

    *mangghomvam DevwI'
         luDel 'e' ra' molor
         vaj ghaH lujang*

    *mangghom luDev wej loD
         wa' Doj law' Hoch Doj puS
         'etlhDaj jeq vagh DuQwI'Hom*

    /Molor asks them,
         Who leads these armies,
         And they reply:/

    /"Three men lead the army
         With one who is most impressive
         With a five pointed blade."/

*tlhob* is used twice in /paq'batlh,/ each time avoiding being a verb of 
saying by using *'e',* like *ra' *above. *ghel* does not appear in 

*jach* does appear in /paq'batlh,/ and sometimes it's a verb of saying 
and sometimes it's not. Here's one where it's not:

    *jach veqlargh jatlh
         muqaD vay' 'ej ghe'tor 'el porgh
         nuqDaq ghaH petaQ'e'*

    /He [Fek'lhr] screamed: "Where is the p'takh
         Who dares to enter Gre'thor
         Within a body?!/

In each case where it is a verb of saying, it's the last word of a 
stanza, and the next stanza is the quotation.


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