[tlhIngan Hol] ghoS and {-vo'}

[SuStel]

On 6/13/2019 7:15 PM, Daniel Dadap wrote:
>
> On Jun 13, 2019, at 08:59, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name 
> <mailto:sustel at trimboli.name>> wrote:
>
>> *DaqvamDaq yIghoS* (commanding multiple people)
>>
> … poD vay' …
>>
>> Meanwhile, *DaqvamDaq peghoS* would mean that while you are in this 
>> place, you should go somewhere.
>>
>
> Thanks. That matched my understanding.
>
> I’ve seen “locative” used for {-Daq} before but until your recent 
> message I don’t think I’ve seen “ablative” for {-vo'}. Is this a 
> common convention, or just something that you use personally? Could 
> {-vaD} be described as “dative”, using this same alien grammatical 
> terminology? Maybe causal for {-mo'}?

Most people don't say /ablative,/ but it fits, is convenient, and 
corresponds to /locative./ *-vaD* isn't dative because it's also 
benefactive. You could use /dative/ or /benefactive/ when describing a 
sentence that clearly has one or the other of these senses, but they're 
not separate noun cases in Klingon. Unless there is a noun case out 
there that combines these two, /dative/benefactive/ is the best you're 
going to get. /Causal/ works for *-mo',* but I prefer /causative,/ 
simply because it fits in with the others.

These are just words to describe Klingon, not inherent properties of the 
language.

-- 
SuStel
http://trimboli.name

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