[tlhIngan Hol] laj lajQo' {-vIp} and imperatives
mayqel qunen'oS
mihkoun at gmail.com
Sat Jun 8 03:04:49 PDT 2019
I understand the arguments so far, but there is still something I
don't understand.
First, lets remember what was written, in the leaflet of qep'a' 2017:
"Finally... a note about -Qo'. There's apparently been some confusion
about -be' and -Qo' in imperatives. This is no doubt because this was
not explained as clearly as it could have been in the Dictionary.
The rule says -Qo' "is used in imperatives" and that -Qo' is "the
imperative counterpart to -be'." The rule isn't that -be' can't appear
anywhere in an imperative construction; it's that -be' can't be used
to mean "don't!" - use -Qo' for that. In other words, -Qo' is used
(and -be' is not) to indicate a negative command, when the meaning of
the command is "don't do X!" X may contain a -be', but if the command
is to not do X, you still need -Qo' at the end (if you're saying
"don't do X" and not "do not-X")".
(I copied the above by hand from the leaflet, so double-check with it
for possible errors).
And now, lets return to the original subject of this thread.
jIH:
> If I remember correctly, tkd has the Ca'Non example:
> HIHoHvIpQo'
> don't be afraid to kill me
> If I say HIlajvIpQo', according to the above, it should translate to "don't be afraid to accept me".
De'vID:
> lugh
So far so good.
jIH:
> However, the lajQo', has been given as "reject".
De'vID:
> mughmeH Qu' napmoHmeH neH jIyweS 'oH mu'vam'e'.
ok, I understand this too.
So, lets say I write HIlajQo'. The way I understand it, it literally
means "don't accept me".
And if I write HIlajvIpQo', then it means "don't be afraid to accept me".
However, if I write HIlajbe', according to the qep'a' 2017, then what
does it mean ? "not accept me" ?
And if I write HIlajvIpbe', is it "be not afraid to accept be" ?
And if I wrote HIlajvIpbe'Qo', is it "don't be not afraid to accept me" ?
I'm asking this because I'm trying to understand, what the qep'a'
information on using -be' in imperatives actually means.
~ m. qunen'oS
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