[tlhIngan Hol] New Words and Grammar Points from qep'a' cha'maH javDIch

De'vID de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com
Mon Jul 22 23:25:55 PDT 2019

On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 at 16:20, nIqolay Q <niqolay0 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:15 AM SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
>> On 7/22/2019 2:52 AM, qurgh lungqIj wrote:
>> This is a summery of all the new information we gained. Most of it is
>> also included on the new words list, but I compiled it all together for
>> ease of reference.
>> *Hoy* is *be refined, be fancy, be sophisticated [pertaining to
>> culture].* Does that bracketed note apply only to the final synonym,
>> *sophisticated,* or the whole definition?
>> That is, does *Hoy* mean *be refined, fancy, not boorish* or *be refined
>> in a cultural sense, fancy in a cultural sense, sophisticated in a cultural
>> sense*?
> I suspect the bracketed note applies to "sophisticated" to distinguish it
> from the sense of "advanced" (as in "This engineering is quite
> sophisticated").
> The original request on the KLI page (which I understand MO was provided
> with) was "Having characteristics associated with the upper class, possibly
> due to being particularly elaborate or due to arbitrarily culturally valued
> attributes. 'We are dinner at a fancy restaurant two nights ago.' 'Only a
> sufficiently sophisticated individual will appreciate the performance.'"

Or, in other words:

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