[tlhIngan Hol] The Rudellian plague

SuStel sustel at trimboli.name
Tue Jan 29 08:34:22 PST 2019

On 1/29/2019 9:58 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
> There's something additional I would like to ask.
> SuStel;
>> vaS'a'Daq vIqraq vIleghtaHvIS taghpu'bogh 'oy' vIqImHa'
> In the above example, as well as the Ca'NoN rudellian plague example, we have:
> "{-Daq}ed noun (all other crap i.e subordinate & relative clauses)
> (verb of the sentence)"
> With the {-Daq}ed noun, referring to the "all other crap", instead of
> the "verb of the sentence".
> But could we have as well the following ?
> "{-Daq}ed noun (verb of the sentence) (all other crap i.e subordinate
> & relative clauses)"
> With the {-Daq}ed noun, still referring to the "all other crap" ?
> Or in order for the {-Daq}ed noun to be able to refer to the "all
> other crap", the "all other crap" need to necessarily follow, right
> next to it in the sentence ?

As you know, the syntax of a basic sentence is

    <time expressions> <adverbials and syntactic nouns> <objects> <verb>

and you further know that subordinate clauses that aren't purpose or 
relative clauses can go here or here:

    <subordinate clause> <basic sentence>
    <basic sentence> <subordinate clause>

Any subordinate clause, whether purpose, relative, or otherwise is 
simply a basic sentence with a special suffix stuck on the end of the verb.

    *wa'Hu' nom vaS'a'Daq HIch bachta' HoD*/Yesterday the captain
    quickly fired a pistol at the Great Hall./

    *wa'Hu' nom vaS'a'Daq HIch bachta'bogh HoD* /the captain who quickly
    fired a pistol at the Great Hall yesterday/the pistol which the
    captain fired at the Great Hall yesterday/

    *wa'Hu' nom vaS'a'Daq HIch bachta'meH HoD*/in order that the captain
    had fired a pistol at the Great Hall quickly/

    *wa'Hu' nom vaS'a'Daq HIch bachta'chugh HoD*/if the captain fired a
    pistol quickly at the Great Hall yesterday/

    *wa'Hu' nom vaS'a'Daq HIch bachta'mo' HoD*/because the captain fired
    a pistol quickly at the Great Hall yesterday/

So all you have to do is build your subordinate clause, then put it in 
the proper place relative to the main clause. Purpose clauses have to go 
in front of the main clause, relative clauses are simply noun phrases, 
and all other subordinate clauses go either before or after the main clause.

Just remember that you don't "split" clauses — at least, not without 
reaching for parenthetical phrases, which are not in evidence anywhere 
in Okrand's writing. Just plug in entire clauses where they belong.

Theoretically there's no limit to the number of nested or 
strung-together clauses you could put together. As a practical matter of 
comprehension, you don't want to go too deep into it.


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