[tlhIngan Hol] Using -ta' during -taHvIS

Daniel Dadap daniel at dadap.net
Tue Feb 26 21:34:25 PST 2019


On Feb 26, 2019, at 21:19, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com> wrote:

>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 at 15:20, Daniel Dadap <daniel at dadap.net> wrote:
>> As for the rule resolving possible conflicts in aspect between a verb and its object sentence, perhaps that’s the reason, but I don’t see why the aspect of a verb taking an SAO and the verb in its SAO have to agree in the first place.
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> What do you mean by "agree"? They don't have to be the same (which you seem to imply), but they can't be incompatible.

Okay. Yes, “the aspects should be the same” is what I thought you meant when you were talking about preventing contradictory aspects, which didn’t seem like something that needed preventing to me, hence the examples. Apologies for the misunderstanding.

Thanks for the Skybox counter-examples of the “no aspect marker on verb taking SAO” rule. I’m constantly saying things like {(qaS vay') 'e' vIHar'pu'} to mean that I *had* believed that whatever the {(qaS vay')} placeholder represents was true, but that believing is completed after some new information caused me to no longer believe it. Then I remember that I’m not allowed to say {'e' vIHarpu'}. Of course, those counter-examples aren’t license to violate the rule given in TKD, but at least I won’t feel quite so bad about the occasional inevitable slip-ups when I say I {vIHarpu'} some sentence.
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