[tlhIngan Hol] DISvam chabal tetlh

[qurgh lungqIj]

The KLI offers a lot of free services, this mailing list that you used to
freely learn the Klingon language is an example.

Members of the KLI have freely given their time to you to teach you the
language.

Do you use the Duolingo course, boQwI' or Hol 'ampaS? They could not exist
without the KLI's extensive work with the language. Work that cost time and
money.

Without the KLI's continued existence, none if this would be happening. For
the KLI to continue to exist, it needs members and volunteers. The members
who pay money help keep the lights on (and pay for the servers that run
this list), while the members who volunteer their time keep the wheels
moving, so as a thank-you we give them extras. They put into the system, so
they get more out. That sounds very fair to me.

Non-paid KLI members can freely suggest 2 words and freely vote on every
word (+1 or -1). I don't see how this is a "severe disadvantage" over folks
who get more suggestions or an extra vote (+2 to -2). Membership is less
than 9 Euros a year. That's a very low barrier, but I understand it's a
barrier.

So, to go to your two people, the second person has the option to ask,
"What can I do to help the KLI? I have no money, but I have these skills
... and I'd like to give back." That's how I got this gig in the first
place, I offered to freely share my skills.

And, just so you know, grammarians will get more say on the system than
regular members, as will those that have passed KLCP levels. The work just
takes time, as it is just the two of us doing it in our free time.

So, remember, before you say the system is unfair, look at how much you
have gotten from it, compared to what you have given to it.

qurgh

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019, 5:23 AM mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com wrote:

> I'm sorry for saying this, but this is unfair.
>
> This is the epitome, this is the monument, of an unfair system for the
> suggestion of new words.
>
> The more of a premium membership someone has, i.e. the more money he
> is willing to pay the klingon language institute, the more words he
> can suggest, and the more votes he's able to cast.
>
> So, lets imagine two people..
>
> The first person, is someone not-so-serious about the language, but
> he's willing to pay. So, although likely he can't even write "I
> suggest this word for maltz" in klingon, he's able not only to suggest
> new words, but also to vote on the words others have suggested.
>
> The second person is someone who worked hard to learn the language, he
> has made it a part of his life, but for whatever reasons he can't pay.
> However this second person is at a severe disadvantage..
>
> If the recommendations of some people have to take priority, then it
> should be the recommendations of those who are members of the tlhIngan
> Hol jatlhwI'pu' facebook group. People who admittedly can actually use
> the language.
>
> It is disturbing to see that everything comes down to money.
>
> ~ mayqel *I love maltz* qunen'oS
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