[tlhIngan Hol] vagh tup neH ret

Jackson Bradley j.monroe.bradley at gmail.com
Tue Aug 20 06:33:51 PDT 2019


wa' DoS wIqIp jIH, De'vID je.

Le mar. 20 août 2019, à 09 h 23, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com> a écrit :

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> On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 14:36, Daniel Dadap <daniel at dadap.net> wrote:
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>> > On Aug 20, 2019, at 07:25, mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > only five minutes ago, I saw the cat ?
>> > or
>> > just five minutes ago, I saw the cat ?
>> > or
>> > both ?
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>> What’s the difference between those two, in English?
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>> My instinct would be to render the phrase as {vagh tup neH ret}, as you
>> have, but I could also see it being {vagh tup ret neH}, since {ret} is a
>> noun and it’s possible that the {neH} should bind to the time expression as
>> a whole, but I do think it makes more sense for it to bind to the duration
>> itself.
>>
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> I think it should be {vagh tup ret neH}, though that's just my intuition.
> My justification is that {tup ret} "binds together" quite strongly, and
> acts as if it were a single word, like {Hu'}.
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> De'vID
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