[tlhIngan Hol] nughIjchugh vay' matuHnIS'a'?

[Steven Boozer]

FYI, here's a post Lieven shared with us from Okrand from February, 2018 about {ghIj}:


   "Maltz says he knows no word for fear. Maltz is one tough dude. He thinks using {ghIj} can work, however. Maltz knows the Federation Standard word "fear". He doesn't know a Klingon equivalent. It's one of those cases where one language has a word for something but another language doesn't. That doesn't mean you can't talk about it or express the same idea — it's just that you do it a different way.
   "You will encounter fear tomorrow might be {wa'leS DughIj vay'} or {wa'leS DaghIjlu'} ("Tomorrow somebody will scare you," "Tomorrow you'll be scared"). 
   "How do I recognize fear? might be something like {vIghIjlu' chay' 'e' vISov?} ("How do/will I know that I'm scared?") 
   "Fear speaks very loud can be recast using similar but different imagery:
      DaghIjlu'chugh bItIwqu' 
        "If you're scared, you'll react really emotionally"
      DaghIjlu' 'e' DabuSHa'laHbe'
        "You can't ignore that you're scared"
      DaghIjlu'chugh chuSqu' QIn 
        "If you're scared, the message is really noisy"
          (or {DaghIjlu'DI'…} "When you're scared…")
      DaghIjlu'chugh jachqu' maQ 
        "If you're scared, the sign/omen yells (loudly)"
          (or {DaghIjlu'DI'…} "When you're scared…")
      DaghIjlu'chugh ghumqu'lu' 
         "If you're scared, the alarm is really sounded"
          (or {DaghIjlu'DI'…} "When you're scared…" 
           or {…ghumlu'bej}   "…the alarm is certainly sounded"
           or {…ghumlu'chu'}  "…the alarm is sounded perfectly"
   "These are only ideas; there are certainly other ways to do this." 


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Voragh

-----Original Message-----
From: Lieven L. Litaer

> On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 at 14:06, Daniel Dadap <daniel at dadap.net
>     {jagh vISuvvIp} - obviously taboo
>     {mughIj jagh} - is this taboo? Or just a normal and expected
>     reaction? {Dujeychugh jagh nIv yItuHQo'} and all, but {DughIjchugh
>     jagh nIv, DatuHnIS'a'?}

Am 12.04.2019 um 14:41 schrieb De'vID:
> not qoHpu''e' neH ghIjlu'.
> The existence of this adage makes me fairly confident that there is no such taboo.

Yes, indeed. Besides, there is a difference between "being scared of something" and "being afraid to do something".

For instance, a Klingon may say {mughIj Ha'DIbaHvam} to mention that this animal makes im feel uncomfortable for some reason, but he may be very brave and touch it anway, so he's not {touching-vIp}.

A phrase from paq'batlh somehow shows the difference:

jIDoghqu'
   vIghIjlu'mo' 'ej bortaS vIneHmo'
   jIleghlaHbe' 'ach chovuvtaH

"What a fool I have been, blinded by fear and spite, and still you find me worthy."

(PB, paq'raD, 2. qeHHa' loDnI')

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Lieven L. Litaer
aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany"