[tlhIngan Hol] DIp wot latlh

nIqolay Q niqolay0 at gmail.com
Mon Jun 25 07:47:13 PDT 2018


Describing the non-nouns, non-verbs as {chuvmey} feels a bit derogatory,
like they're not important words. {latlh} is at least a little more
neutral. Perhaps Klingon grammarians have decided to update their
terminology after thirty years of non-Klingon interest in the language.

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 9:43 AM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:

> On 6/25/2018 9:26 AM, Daniel Dadap wrote:
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> On Jun 25, 2018, at 08:21, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
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> On 6/25/2018 8:03 AM, Lieven L. Litaer wrote:
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> Am 23.06.2018 um 19:45 schrieb SuStel:
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> This is interesting. Marc Okrand gave a grammar lecture at Mythmoot V
> yesterday (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/276418848), and when he says
> there are three parts of speech (around 19 minutes in), he names them
> *DIp*/nouns,/*wot*/verbs,/ and *latlh*/everything else./
>
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> I would guess that he just forgot about what they were called in TKD and
> just from his mind translated "others" literally as {latlh}.
>
> And staying "in the game": naming the {chuvmey} as {latlh} still makes
> sense. {chuvmey} perhabs is not really a grammatical term, but just a way
> to refer to anything that's not a verb or a noun (or suffix, of course).
>
> It would have to be the other way round: "By far the bulk of Klingon words
> are nouns and verbs. There are a few others which, probably as an
> expedient, Klingon grammarians lump together in a group called *chuvmey*
> *leftovers.*"
>
> So Marc may be calling them *latlh* when giving a talk at Mythmoot, but
> *chuvmey* certainly is a grammatical term.
>
>
> Maybe Morskan or Krotmag or some other dialect yet to be described doesn’t
> have the word “chuv”, so people speaking those dialects call the chuvmey
> “latlh”.
>
> Maybe, but Marc was teaching the standard dialect. Besides, if it had been
> Morskan, it would have been called *lats.*
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