[tlhIngan Hol] xifan hol: k and q

Daniel Dadap daniel at dadap.net
Sun Jun 3 05:18:56 PDT 2018



> On Jun 3, 2018, at 06:57, Lieven L. Litaer <levinius at gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> First, most of the fonts use the k=q q=Q variant.

Right, this is what I meant when I said that variant appears to be prevalent.

> 
> As you mentioned before, some use lower case, some upper case. The KLI's font used uper case because the lower case is maped with a different font type. So that should be XIFAN HOL.

Yeah, I’m really talking about more than just fonts here. In this case I’m using xifan hol as a kind of interchange format to avoid problems with case sensitivity and ' as a letter instead of punctuation.

> The Klingonska Akademien font uses lower case, xifan hol, which might be easier to type, but with using caps lock makes it no difference.

It does make a difference if you’ve remapped caps lock, as many people do. I often use caps lock as compose, since it’s the only sane way to type accented characters from multiple different Latin alphabet using languages within a single keyboard layout. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have had any reservations about using XIFAN HOL, since I’ve never observed any K=Q; Q=q variant of that.

> Another thing that might b confusing is that some fonts map the apostrophe differently (' or z), so that should also be considered.

Right, I’m using z, since I don’t want to spend unknown amounts of time hunting down bugs in the DNN TTS software where treating ' as a letter becomes problematic. I had already decided on using xifan hol anyway, because a cursory inspection of the source code suggested that one of the analysis passes normalizes the case of letters, and I wanted to avoid problems with q vs Q, and also words like vengHom or nenghep.

> I don't know if you have checked the Klingon wiki on that, because here's quite alot about pIqaD and also about conversion.
> 
> http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/PIqaD
> http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/Fonts
> http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/Perl
> http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/Unicode

The wiki did come up when I searched for “xifan hol” to try to see if this had been discussed before, but I didn’t see any place where the existence of multiple variants was discussed. I can add a page dedicated to xifan hol later.

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