[tlhIngan Hol] {-be'} on {-lu'}.. seriously ?
SuStel
sustel at trimboli.name
Tue Jan 23 06:30:59 PST 2018
On 1/23/2018 3:54 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
> But I find it wrong, someone based on the {tu'lu'be'}, and some vague
> indications with regards to the nature of the rover, to go on and
> write something like {Soplu'be'}.
>
> An expert should write as an expert; unless he/she write only for
> themselves. But if you are an expert, and are writing something which
> will be seen and read by other people, then you have to respect the
> readers and follow the damn rules.
I've explained this multiple times. The rovers *-be'* and *-qu'* do not
always apply just to the single, immediately preceding element of the
verb. Sometimes they get applied to entire verbs or even entire
sentences. This is not explained in TKD; it simply shows up in canonical
sentences.
*Hoch DaSopbe'chugh batlh bIHeghbe'
*/Eat everything or you will die without honor./ (PK)
This doesn't mean /if you do not eat everything you will fail to die
honorably./ The *-be'* applies to the entire phrase *batlh bIHegh*/you
will die honorably./
There are other examples I have cited before; I don't have the time to
find them again. Suffice it to say that *Soplu'be'* doesn't mean
/definite subject eats;/ it means /one does not eat./
As for why you would say that instead of *Sopbe'lu',* I don't think
there's a difference. Lieven tried to make one, but I don't believe
Klingon gets that specific with its suffix ordering. At best,
complaining that *Soplu'be'* doesn't follow the "immediately preceding
element" rule marks you as a grammatical curmudgeon, and does not
improve anyone's comprehension. *yIleS!*
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SuStel
http://trimboli.name
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