[tlhIngan Hol] new words from DSC-subtitles (with minor SPOILERS)

nIqolay Q niqolay0 at gmail.com
Tue Jan 9 08:03:35 PST 2018


On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 3:47 PM, Felix Malmenbeck <felixm at kth.se> wrote:

> Perhaps you could even use {Y DopmoH X.}; it is X that makes Y opposite,
> as something cannot be opposite of nothing.
>

​Isn't something already the opposite of nothing? :)​


> Would be interesting to know how to use this to describe antonyms. Can you
> treat verbs like names, and say something like:
>
> {Dop Say' lam je.}
> = "Say' and lam are opposites."
>
> Or perhaps give them "titles" such as:
>
> {Dop Say' wot lam wot je.}
> = "The verb Say' is the opposite of the verb lam."
>

​We don't really know a lot about how Klingon deals with referring to words
as words. At the very least, ​I feel like you'd want some sort of quotation
mark: {Dop "Say'" "lam" je.} (Just out of curiosity, is there some other
punctuation accepted by the Klingonist community to indicate quotations
besides the "? It kind of mixes in with the qaghwI'mey.)​

I think {tlhegh} might be preferable to {SIrgh}, considering the word
> {mu'tlhegh}, though I might be reading too much into that. {mIr} would
> certainly make a lot of sense, as it has discrete elements.
> {tlhegh} is also apparently used for lines formed by people (c.f.
> paq'batlh, paq'raD, Canto 1, Stanza 9, Line 2 - chen wej tlheghmey), though
> it's unclear if the word incorporates the sequential aspects of a queue or
> just the shape of a rope.
>

{mIr} or possibly {mIw mIr} makes the most sense to me for a software
thread.

I'd be interested to know a little more about the different ways {tlhegh}
and {mIr} are used metaphorically. {mIr} is used in {lupwI' mIr} "train"
and {lut mIr} "series of stories", and seems to mean "related things
connected sequentially". {tlhegh} is used in {mu'tlhegh} "sentence",
{vIttlhegh} "proverb", and {yutlhegh} "scale, spectrum", and seems to be a
bit more abstract, and isn't used as a standalone word in those
metaphorical compounds. Are there any more uses of these words from canon?
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