[tlhIngan Hol] Is Daq'a' canon ?

[Felix Malmenbeck]

Star Trek XI did indeed have Klingon dialogue - written by Marc Okrand - in two deleted scenes: The Klingons capturing the Narada, and Nero on Rura Penthe. In the former, the dialogue is quite clear. In the second, it's very difficult to understand; it may have been copied and pasted from several cuts.

At qepHom 2011, when I told Marc we'd been trying to figure out what was being said, he replied with "Good luck!".


There is no known official transcript, and I can no longer find the first of the two scenes online, but it should be on pretty much any DVD/Blu-Ray of the film.


On a previous attempt to transcribe the Narada capture scene, I arrived at:


«nISbogh Duj! tlhIngan wo' Daq'a'/teblaw' bo'elpu'! jonta' bochu'qa'chugh 'ej tIjwI'ghom bovanrupbe'chugh vaj reQaw'.»


//loghaD



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From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces at lists.kli.org> on behalf of mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Is Daq'a' canon ?

I don't know, what's the story with this word.

All I know is that I was informed, with regards to its existence, by a little bird whose name we are not supposed to mention.

~ nI'ghma

On Jan 8, 2018 16:52, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer at uchicago.edu<mailto:sboozer at uchicago.edu>> wrote:
nI'ghma asks:
> A little bird told me, that in a deleted scene of the 2009 star trek movie
> appears the phrase:
>     tlhIngan wo' Daq'a' bo'elpu'
>     you have entered the jurisdiction of the klingon empire
> Does anyone know, whether this phrase was written by 'oqranD ?
> Is the above translation of {Daq'a'} = jurisdiction, canon ?

This is news to me.  Was there any other Klingon in that movie -- J.J. Abram's "Star Trek" (ST11), right? I don't have anything in my notes.

By 2009 we already had the nouns {teblaw'} "jurisdiction" and {yer} "domain, holdings, territory" so there was no pressing need for {Daq'a'} - unless the original line was somehow different.  (The production companies have been known to change subtitles, but not the spoken Klingon dialogue, after a scene is filmed.)

--Voragh
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