# [tlhIngan Hol] ngIq and numbers

mayqel qunenoS mihkoun at gmail.com
Fri Jan 5 13:35:32 PST 2018

```I guess I could omit the {loS} and still express the desired meaning.

But the question remains; if {ngIq} expresses "a sequence of things one
after the other", then why not specify with a number the quantity of these
things ?

Putting aside the fact that it has never been used in canon with a number
preceding it.. If someone read the {loS ngIq mIwHom luSIQlu'}, would he
understand the intended meaning ?

Or would there be any room for confusion/misinterpretation, as far as the
intended meaning is concerned ?

~ nI'ghma

On Jan 5, 2018 23:07, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:

> I’m not sure.  {ngIq} has been used in sentences with numbers, but not in
> the way you want (if I understand what you’re trying to say).  E.g.
>
>
>
>   ngIq tonSaw' lo' SaD law' San chenmoH qeylIS wej boghbogh nuvpu' San
> chenmoH
>
>   In one single move, Kahless decided the fate of thousands, and those to
> come.  PB
>
>   ngIq raQ – 200 QaS, mon – 200 QaS loS raQmey je
>
>   Outposts cost 200 each; capitals, 200 each plus 4 outposts.  MKE
>
>
>   ngIq gholvaD vaghmaH QaS yInob
>
>   Pay each player 50 forces.  MKE
>
>
>   ngIq gholvo' wa'maH QaS yItlhap
>
>   Collect 10 forces from every player.  MKE
>
> Since {mIw} means “procedure,  process;  step,  stage (in a process)” –
>  sequential by nature – why not just say {loS mIw luSIQlu'}?   Note there’s
> also a separate verb {quq} meaning “happen simultaneously”:
>
>
>   quqtaHvIS wanI'vam raQDaq pawta' qotar qempa'QeH je
>
>   At the same time Kotar and the **Qempa'keh** arrive at the camp. PB
>
>
>
> And don’t forget the adverbials  {nIteb} "alone, acting alone, on one’s
> own, etc." vs. {nItebHa'} "linked, (acting) united, side-by-side, etc.”.
>
>
>
> --Voragh
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* mayqel qunenoS
>
> I was wondering whether we could say:
>
>
>
> {loS ngIq mIw luSIQlu'}
>
> four individual processes someone endured
>
> Meaning "four individual processes one after the other".
>
>
>
> What puzzles me is using a number in conjuction with {ngIq}.
>
> Could this be done ? Is the above sentence correct ?
>
>
>
> ~ nI'ghma
>
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