[tlhIngan Hol] ghob'etlh

Felix Malmenbeck felixm at kth.se
Tue Feb 13 11:55:16 PST 2018


> I'm not sure using ghIlo'meH for "glommer" is a more significant sin. (It does help if you explain what a "glommer" is,

> just in case some people are not totally familiar with esoteric Klingon lore.)


The word *ghIlo'meH* (has it been canonized?) has rather an interesting origin. As far as I can tell, it began its journey in the book Star Trek: Forged in Fire, where the author decided to "klingonize" the word "glommer" as *glo'meH* (which violates ordinary syllable structure in exactly the same way that "glommer" does).

Then *glo'meH* was used as an English word in How to Speak Klingon, which was then properly klingonized as *ghIlo'meH*.


It's essentially come about through a strange game of Telephone / Chinese Whispers ... but then again, I suppose that's true of much of language in general.


//loghaD


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Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] ghob'etlh

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 12:38 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com<mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>> wrote:
'ej chaq, *extended canon* mu' vIlo'ta'mo', jIHeghDI', Suto'vo'qorvo' mughIm qeylIS..

chaq not yo' qIj vImuvlaH, 'ej wa' meqmo' neH Sanvam vISIQ.. *extended canon* mu' vIlo'ta'mo' !

?chaq teH... 'a vIHon.

Many of the entries that boQwI' lists as "extended canon" are names of weapons, devices, animals, plants, foods, and so on. In other words, they're basically just transliterations of the names of specific aspects of Klingon culture which were already invented for a TV episode or novel. Using an unofficial transliteration of a name may cause a small argument, but it's probably not going to keep you out of Sto-Vo-Kor. People used QISmaS "Christmas" for ages before Maltz signed off on it as an official transliteration of the holiday; I'm not sure using ghIlo'meH for "glommer" is a more significant sin. (It does help if you explain what a "glommer" is, just in case some people are not totally familiar with esoteric Klingon lore.)

Extended canon that's not just a transliteration should probably be avoided until further notice.
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