[tlhIngan Hol] Making someone do something to someone/something else

[SuStel]

On 9/15/2017 5:18 AM, Aurélie Demonchaux wrote:
> I have been wondering about how to perfectly convey sentences where 
> there seems to be 2 subjects, such as "She made you wait for us" and 
> just came up with an idea that I wanted to discuss with you: using < 
> ... ’e’ qaSmoH >
>
> For instance:
> juloS ’e’ qaSmoH
> > Literally: She caused it to happen that you waited for us
>
> Or, for the example from last month (they made the dog enter the cage: 
> DogvaD mo’ lu’elmoH):
> mo’ ’el dog ’e’ luqaSmoH
>
> When you think about it, in "She made you wait for us", the subject is 
> "she" but the object is not "you", it is the action/event "you wait 
> for us" taken as a whole, thus <... ’e’ qaSmoH > seems a logical way 
> to phrase it.
>
> What do you think ? Has it maybe been discussed already ?

Sure, people have been using *'e' qaSmoH* forever. It was one of the 
primary ways of getting around the "ditransitive" issue before we had 
examples and confirmation. You're reconstructing it from the other 
direction.

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SuStel
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