[tlhIngan Hol] Two {-'e'}'s in a pronoun sentence.

[mayqel qunenoS]

I agree 100% with the analysis provided by lieven.

So, if I understand correctly:

Yes, we can have the construction {b'e' 'oH a'e'}.
Yes, we can have the construction {yadda yadda yadda b'e' 'oHbogh 'a'e'}.

If I understand wrong, then do correct me.

qunnoq

On Sep 12, 2017 6:33 PM, "Lieven" <levinius at gmx.de> wrote:

> Am 12.09.2017 um 17:15 schrieb De'vID:
>
>> {nutojta' nepwI''e' chaHbogh verengan'e'}
>>> the liars which are the ferengi deceived us
>>>
>>
> This is mixed up very often. I believe to see that in a To-Be-phrase, the
> word order is reversed, so "A is B" is in Klingon {B 'oH A'e'}. I base thi
> on TKD: "If the subject is a noun, it follows the third-person pronoun".
>
> So {nepwI' chaH verengan'e'} is "The Ferengi are liars".
>
> When adding {-bogh}, I get the "ferengi which are liars" and not "liars
> which are ferengi".
>
> How is this different
>>
>
> I see it as follows:
>
> {nutojta' nepwI''e' chaHbogh verengan'e'}
> "the Ferengi which are liars (and nothing else) have deceived us"
> = there are many ferengi, but only those who are liars (and nothing else)
> have deceived us.
>
> {nutojta' verengan chaHbogh nepwI''e'}
> "the liars which are ferengi deceived us"
> = there are many liars on board the ship, but only those who are Ferengi
> have deceived us.
>
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