[tlhIngan Hol] At the qepHom ask about the vonlu'
mayqel qunenoS
mihkoun at gmail.com
Sun Oct 29 05:08:19 PDT 2017
naHQun:
> Attend the qepHom'a' (or other event where MO will be
> present).
jIvummo', qepHom'a'Daq jIHlaHbe'taH; 'ej Do'Ha' choyajHa'.
jIH'e' neH lubopbe' mu'meywIj; ghelnIS je latlhpu'. vaj nuq Dachup naHQun ?
hmm ? nuq ?
ghelmeH, Qu'chaj lulon Hoch, 'ej Sep novDaq lujaH ? bISagh'a' ?
~ nIghma'
On Oct 29, 2017 1:48 PM, "Michael Roney, Jr." <nahqun at gmail.com> wrote:
> Write your questions down.
>
> Attend the qepHom'a' (or other event where MO will be present).
>
> Present your questions to him directly.
>
> Do not expect instant answers.
>
> ~naHQun
>
> ~Michael Roney, Jr.
> Sent from my Palm Prē
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com>
> Date: 10/29/17 05:32 (GMT-05:00)
> To: tlhingan-hol at kli.org
> Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] At the qepHom ask about the vonlu'
>
> nIqolay Q
> > nor am I the one who has to directly ask Okrand for his time
> > and effort, so I'm less inclined to demand that others do
> > those things on my behalf
>
> I'm not demanding. I'm suggesting.
>
> This is the official mailing list of the klingon language institute. It is
> not some insignificant group of five individuals.
>
> It is expected that on this list, grammar questions which can't be
> answered through existing canon will appear.
>
> And it is expected, that these questions (or at least some of them), will
> be forwarded by someone to the one who can answer them.
>
> The alternative is that noone takes "the time and effort", and these
> questions remain unanswered..
>
> This can happen too, but I don't think that this would help klingon to
> develop.
>
> I really have a hard time accepting, that in the official mailing list of
> the klingon language institute, the policy goes by:
>
> "don't you even think -let alone suggest- of asking 'oqranD".
>
> ~ nIghma'
>
> On Oct 29, 2017 3:44 AM, "nIqolay Q" <niqolay0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 7:19 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> How long has the {ngIq} remained unclarified ? Why ? Is there a reason ?
>>>
>>
>> *vIqawchu'chugh*, *ngIq* was introduced at a *qep'a'* where Okrand asked
>> Klingonists to look over the text of the opera* 'u'* that he'd
>> translated, and discussion of new words was done entirely in Klingon. My
>> guess is that nobody asked Okrand for more detail because they assumed they
>> had it figured out from the examples even without a precise English gloss.
>> Same with the question of number agreement with conjunctions -- people
>> probably just went with what felt right without thinking of it as something
>> worth asking about.
>>
>>
>>> Is it so hard, for someone who communicates with 'oqranD and organizes
>>> the qepHom, to compile a list with the grammar which needs clarification
>>> and send it to 'oqranD before the qepHom asking for clarification ?
>>>
>>
>> It's possible that the people who have Okrand's email address don't think
>> the questions are that pressing. It's also possible someone's already
>> forwarded them to Okrand and we'll get answers in November. It'd be nice to
>> have these questions answered. But I'm not the one who has to put time and
>> effort into answering those questions, nor am I the one who has to directly
>> ask Okrand for his time and effort, so I'm less inclined to demand that
>> others do those things on my behalf.
>>
>>
>>> How many questions would there be ? a maximum of 10 ? Are they so many ?
>>>
>>
>> If I put my mind to it and I had a week to kill, I could probably come up
>> with a hundred grammar questions. "How do we use this word" and "can we
>> retcon this goof into grammatical Klingon" and "what is the preferred style
>> or phrasing in this sentence" and "would this construction be interpreted
>> the way I meant it to be interpreted" and so on.
>>
>>
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