[tlhIngan Hol] One more day
mayqel qunenoS
mihkoun at gmail.com
Tue Oct 10 11:33:02 PDT 2017
SuStel:
> If someone were to write *Duj Do'a' Do DoHom vIjuv* for *I *
*> measure the ship's deceleration*
*I can'understand this; all I read is "I measure the ship's great speed,
speed, lesser speed"*
*mayqel q*
On Oct 10, 2017 8:09 PM, "SuStel" <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
> On 10/10/2017 12:51 PM, nIqolay Q wrote:
>
> I don't see these as a spectrum, and these suffixes don't express what I
>> thought of the nouns at the time; they tell what I think of them when I say
>> the sentence.
>>
> It's interesting that you don't see these suffixes as a spectrum. I
> thought it was a good example of a spectrum of something like "increasing
> belief on my part that this thing can or should be described by this noun",
> from *-qoq* ("obviously not such a thing") to *-na'* ("definitely such a
> thing"). That's a good point about how they apply at the time of speaking,
> though. (At first I was going to argue that in the right context they could
> be taken to mean "what I thought of them at the time", like if they were
> contrasted with each other in some kind of temporal sequence, but I think
> that's mostly just because I really liked that example and want to salvage
> it somehow.)
>
> Noun qualification suffixes applying to what a participant in the sentence
> is not a complete impossibility, though I don't like it. We've seen hints
> of similar in the verb qualification suffixes. But we haven't actually seen
> anything like this in nouns so far as I know, so no point trying to find a
> way to make it so.
>
> You might construct a similar argument based on aspect suffixes and
> *-ghach:* *SuvchoHghach SuvtaHghach Suvpu'ghach* for something like *fight
> from start to finish.* There's an unmistakable sequence here, but it
> doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. And with this one there's actually
> little point to nominalizing it; just say *SuvchoH SuvtaH Suvpu'.*
> Interpret it with full stops after each word if you must.
>
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