[tlhIngan Hol] One more day

[mayqel qunenoS]

SuStel:
> Just picture it in your head.

hmm.. I think I understand. Like someone seeing a ship decelerate, and each
of his words refers to a specific "screenshot", of the deceleration event.
maj.

mayqel q

On Oct 10, 2017 9:44 PM, "André Müller" <esperantist at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> 2017-10-10 20:33 GMT+02:00 mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com>:
>
>> SuStel:
>> > If someone were to write *Duj Do'a' Do DoHom vIjuv* for *I *
>> *> measure the ship's deceleration*
>>
>> *I can'understand this; all I read is "I measure the ship's great speed,
>> speed, lesser speed"*
>>
>> *mayqel q*
>>
>>
> This is also the only thing I am grasping there. It would not make sense
> to me. It sounds either like a mere list, or like a NNN construction
> meaning "I measure the lesser speed of the speed of the greater speed of
> the ship." Neither of which makes sense. Maybe that ship has only 3 speed
> modes, slow pace, middle pace, and full speed, and I could measure what
> they are (e.g. half impulse, full impulse, and warp 1).
>
> Interpreting something like "deceleration" into seems like a big stretch.
> Like linguistic fan fiction.
>
> - André
>
>
>
>> On Oct 10, 2017 8:09 PM, "SuStel" <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/10/2017 12:51 PM, nIqolay Q wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't see these as a spectrum, and these suffixes don't express what I
>>>> thought of the nouns at the time; they tell what I think of them when I say
>>>> the sentence.
>>>>
>>> It's interesting that you don't see these suffixes as a spectrum. I
>>> thought it was a good example of a spectrum of something like "increasing
>>> belief on my part that this thing can or should be described by this noun",
>>> from *-qoq* ("obviously not such a thing") to *-na'* ("definitely such
>>> a thing"). That's a good point about how they apply at the time of
>>> speaking, though. (At first I was going to argue that in the right context
>>> they could be taken to mean "what I thought of them at the time", like if
>>> they were contrasted with each other in some kind of temporal sequence, but
>>> I think that's mostly just because I really liked that example and want to
>>> salvage it somehow.)
>>>
>>> Noun qualification suffixes applying to what a participant in the
>>> sentence is not a complete impossibility, though I don't like it. We've
>>> seen hints of similar in the verb qualification suffixes. But we haven't
>>> actually seen anything like this in nouns so far as I know, so no point
>>> trying to find a way to make it so.
>>>
>>> You might construct a similar argument based on aspect suffixes and
>>> *-ghach:* *SuvchoHghach SuvtaHghach Suvpu'ghach* for something like *fight
>>> from start to finish.* There's an unmistakable sequence here, but it
>>> doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. And with this one there's actually
>>> little point to nominalizing it; just say *SuvchoH SuvtaH Suvpu'.*
>>> Interpret it with full stops after each word if you must.
>>>
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