[tlhIngan Hol] DSC Klingon Trailer transcription (NOT offlist)

[SuStel]

On 10/4/2017 6:40 PM, ghunchu'wI' 'utlh wrote:
>> On Oct 4, 2017, at 3:32 PM, SuStel<sustel at trimboli.name>  wrote:
>>
>> If you have three Men and a Baby, and you say Man One and Man Two changed the Baby, there is a very strong implication that Man Three did not change the Baby.
> It doesn't imply to me that Man Three*never*  changes the baby, just that he didn't do it in the event being discussed.

It works exactly the same if you talk about predilections instead of a 
single event.

Three Men live with a Baby. When the Baby needs changing, Man One and 
Man Two change it. The strong implication is that Man Three doesn't 
change the Baby when the Baby needs changing.

Could there be an exceptional case where one day Man Three changes the 
Baby? Sure. Do you know of any instance whatsoever in which Man Three 
has changed or would change the Baby? No, not at all. The fact that I 
didn't say Man Three doesn't change the Baby doesn't suddenly mean that 
he has changed the Baby or even would change the Baby.


> Okrand's explanation was focusing on how to interpret a prefix that doesn't match the possible objects for a verb, and addressed "similar" situations where it doesn't match the stated object. I believe that the mismatch need not be limited to person, but can include number.

You believe this without example or explanation from Okrand, and with a 
strong implication against it.

Look, the warning in TKD that when it says "always" or "never" you 
mustn't take that too literally applies to this as well. Could there be 
exceptions to what he said? Yes. Does that very message imply any 
exceptions? No. If Okrand wants to declare that the prefix trick works 
when the prefix's number doesn't match the direct object's number, he 
can do that. He might even do it if Qov or Lieven report this argument 
to him and show him the line in /Discovery///we're talking about; he 
could back-fit the error into good grammar.

But nothing like that is even hinted at in his explanation.

-- 
SuStel
http://trimboli.name

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