[tlhIngan Hol] mu' chu' chabal tetlh!

Felix Malmenbeck felixm at kth.se
Sat Mar 25 09:11:31 PDT 2017


- for the N:th time

Example sentences:

- The third time I saw you, I began to experience parmaq.

- I will see my doctor for the third time tomorrow.

- I played Qavbogh DI'ruj ngeb wa'maH vagh for the one-thousandth time yesterday.

- While I was reading the book for the second time, I noticed a grammatical error.

- Do you remember the first time we danced together?

You might also consider a sentence that doesn't make much sense in English:

- On the how-many:th date do Klingons normally do it for the first time?

There are currently some decent workarounds, but I feel they're a lot more cumbersome than they need be; I usually end up with something like "When I'd done something (N-1) times, while I was doing it again, before I had finished doing it..."

You also sometimes get into situations where it's unclear if you mean "I ate pizza for the third time yesterday." vs. "I ate pizza three times yesterday."

Sometimes there are handy nouns available (Hegh wanI'wIj wa'DIch vIqawchu'.), but other times you're left with -ghach, which works well for simple sentences (qaStaHvIS ja'chuqtaHghachmaj cha'DIch, chovuQqu'.) is troublesome for complex sentences ("the third time my mother and I went hunting for targs in the forest together").

This could potentially be handled using a new numerical suffix.

...or perhaps even by combining -DIch and -logh?

From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces at lists.kli.org> on behalf of SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name>
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Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mu' chu' chabal tetlh!

On 3/25/2017 9:39 AM, Felix Malmenbeck wrote:


> We can say DorDI' Hogh and we generally accept taghDI' Hogh,

> so I'm not devastated by this lack. (I wouldn't mind a verb for

> begin [a period of time does this].)

There is quite a lot of canon support for {tagh} having a dual syntax:

tagh [event]. = "[Event] begins."

[event] tagh [agent]. = "[Agent] starts [event]."

I'm not referring to dual syntax; I mean tagh is glossed begin a process, initiate, which might suggest that it refers only to processes or events, not to time periods. All of the examples of tagh you provided refer to events or processes, except possibly tagh HarghchuqmeH poH, which is a time period defined by an event. The question is, does a week "start a process, initiate"?

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