[tlhIngan Hol] The pronunciation of {Q}

[Lieven]

Am 12.07.2017 um 08:27 schrieb mayqel qunenoS:
> And here lies the additional problem; As if things weren't already
> confusing enough, we have the english translations, all translating
> the {Q} as "kr". As a result, it is so easy to get the impression that
> its correct sound is "kr" instead of [qχ].

Yes, but remember that any kind of transcription can never duplicate the 
same sounds, especially if the do not exist. For instance, you know that 
{tlhIngan} is transcribed as "Klingon", but tlh is certainly not KL.

On Jul 11, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Lieven <levinius at gmx.de> wrote:
>>> a) You can easily describe {Q} in Klingon as {q} + {H}.

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 3:22 AM, <qunchuy at alcaco.net> wrote:
>> You *can*, but you would be describing the sound inaccurately. {H} is velar; {Q} is uvular.

That is true, but the difference is so slightly, that for a beginner, it 
still is the best way to describe it. (btw, I had regular discussions 
that Okrand's H is not always really velar, so the difference is really 
slightly - but that's another topic I don't want to restart. Okrand 
confirmed that H is velar.)

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