[tlhIngan Hol] SuStel please tell me, I need to know..

mayqel qunenoS mihkoun at gmail.com
Mon Jul 31 08:20:28 PDT 2017


SuStel:
> I'm not sure that would have helped. You weren't interpreting tlhIngan Hol as the subject of
> jatlhqu'meH; you were interpreting it as the head noun of jatlhqu'meH. Adding a -lu' wouldn't have
> changed anything.

Oh yes, you're right ! Only now I understood what's happening.

SuStel:
> Sometimes it is speculated that you need a subject if the purpose clause attaches to a
> sentence instead of a noun

Because grammar terms confuse me, could you write an example of this ?

qunnoq

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 6:12 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
> On 7/31/2017 11:00 AM, André Müller wrote:
>
> SuStel, you used -qu' on jatlh to express not intensity of the action or
> state the verb is describing (e.g. "speak a lot" or "speak loudly" or "speak
> really well" which would have been possible interpretations for me), but as
> an emphasis marker, like SPEAKING (as opposed to anything else), sort of
> like topicalizing a verb.
>
> Is there canonical evidence for this usage? I'm currently in Myanmar and
> didn't bring my TKD, so I can't check it easily now. But this usage strikes
> me as odd. Usually so-called "intensifiers" cannot do this in languages, but
> I don't know how Okrand described -qu' exactly.
>
> From TKD:
>
> -qu' emphatic
>
> This suffix emphasizes or affirms whatever immediately precedes it.
>
> I'll simplify the quotation of the examples given.
>
> yIHaghqu' study him/her well
> nuQaw'qu'be' they have not finished us off
>
> The roving nature of -qu' can be seen in the following set:
>
> pIHoHvIpbe'qu' we are NOT afraid to kill you
> pIHoHvIpqu'be' we are not AFRAID to kill you
> pIHoHqu'vIp'be' we are not afraid to KILL you
>
> The first word above might be used after an enemy challenged the b4ravery of
> the speaker. The second might be followed by an explanation such as, "We are
> not willing to kill you because we require your services." The third word
> would be used to emphasize killing, as opposed to some other form of
> punishment.
>
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