[tlhIngan Hol] KLBC - How to say "I like to do/doing something"

[SuStel]

jum. choQoylaHchugh jIratlhlaH 'e' vIQub. mIw vISovbe'. jIDogh. bIDogh, 
Qel qan. bIvemDI' SoS vav je Daghaj 'ej choqawbe'. toH, loQ choqaw. 
nachlIj Dabbogh lut jIH. lu'. tagha' lut 'oH Hoch'e'. lut yIQaQmoH. 
nIvmo', nIvbejmo': 'IDnar 'aplo' nIHta' maw'bogh loD qan 'ej Haw'ta'. 
vInIHta' 'e' qaja'? toH, vIngIpta'; reH vIcheghmoH 'e' vIHech. 'o 
'aplo'vetlh, /Amy,/ 'aplo'vetlh Daghom bInajtaHvIS. not Dumej. quq 
ngoDmeyvam: tIn 'ej mach, chu'chu' 'ej qanqu'; 'ej SuDchu'ghachDaj SuD 
law' Hoch SuD puS. 'ej Doch DIta'bogh, qar'a'? Doch lujallu'bogh. Doch 
DIta'be'bogh. bInajtaHvIS ratlh Dochmeyvam. Qel /Amy Pond/ je... 
qaSbe'bogh jajmey je.

SoQchoH Qarghmey. 'ach SoQlaHbe'chu' latlh Dop vIghoSpa'. DaH naDev 
jInov. ratlhbogh qaSHa'ghach vIbuSQo'. qaSqa'ghach vImuS. yIyInchu'. 
/Rory/ yImuSHa'. /Bye-bye, Pond./


On 2/12/2017 10:27 AM, Aurélie Demonchaux wrote:
> Thanks for your help and explanations Sustel !
>
> I think I get it now :)
>
> ~mughwI'
>
> PS: "TARDIS-blue", I love your choice of example ;) Whovian jIH!
>
>
> 2017-02-11 18:16 GMT+01:00 SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name 
> <mailto:sustel at trimboli.name>>:
>
>     On 2/11/2017 8:34 AM, Aurélie Demonchaux wrote:
>>     Indeed the lack of tense can be a bit confusing sometimes and
>>     it's taking me a bit of time getting used to.
>>
>>     I'm still working to figure out also how it works with the verb
>>     suffixes.
>>
>>     For example, in the 4 possible sentences below, do I get the
>>     exact nuances right?
>>
>>     jIvutpu’ ’e’ vIparHa’
>>     - I like that I cooked (at some point in the past)
>>     - I like that I have cooked (just now)
>>     - I like finishing to cook (maybe implying that this is when I
>>     can finally eat ;)
>
>     "At some point in the past" implies past tense, which we know
>     Klingon doesn't have. Instead, the *-pu'* tells us that "I cook"
>     is a completed action. In English we can't separate tense and
>     aspect, so the distinction is difficult for English-speakers to grasp.
>
>     *jIvutpu'
>     */I cooked; I have cooked; I will have cooked
>     /I perform, performed, or will perform an act of cooking, and I
>     now, did, or will complete that act.
>
>     The single word in no way tells you whether the action is past,
>     present, or future. It means all of them and none of them at the
>     same time, the same way that /blue/ means sky-blue and navy-blue
>     and TARDIS-blue all at the same time.
>
>     *wa'Hu' jIvutpu'
>     */yesterday I cooked; yesterday I had cooked/
>
>     *DaH jIvutpu'
>     */right now I have cooked/
>
>     *wa'leS jIvutpu'
>     */tomorrow I will have cooked/
>
>     Contexts like these are required to determine /when/ the cooking
>     happened.
>
>     If you don't use an aspect suffix, you are explicitly talking
>     about an action that is not completed (or continuous) in the
>     moment your are describing.
>
>     *jIvut
>     */I cook; //It's true that I cook things/
>
>     This also does not specify /when/ an action happened, which
>     requires context:
>
>     *wa'Hu' jIvut
>     */I cooked yesterday; it's true that I engaged in cooking yesterday/
>
>     *DaH jIvut
>     */I cook now; at other times I may not have cooked, but it's true
>     that I cook now/
>
>     *wa'leS jIvut
>     */I will cook tomorrow; tomorrow I'll do some cooking/
>
>     You can make a similar comparison with the continuous suffixes.
>
>     -- 
>     SuStel
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>
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