[tlhIngan Hol] -lI': intentional or not?

SuStel sustel at trimboli.name
Sun Feb 26 10:19:33 PST 2017

On 2/26/2017 12:35 PM, Lieven wrote:
> Would there be a difference between a stone falling due to the wind 
> moving it and my intentionally making it drop?

Unless you are intentionally personifying the wind and giving it an 
objective of making the stone hit the ground, the restrictive argument 
would say yes, there is a difference: if you dropped the stone intending 
that its goal is the ground you could say *pumlI'* (or *pumtaH*); if the 
stone fell off a cliff because of a gust of wind, you could only say 

The non-restrictive argument would say there is no difference: the 
agent's intentions are not described by *-lI',* the speaker is merely 
describing an action progressing toward a known stopping point. A rock 
pushed off a cliff by a gust of wind could be said to be *pumlI'* 
because it is making progress toward the known stopping point of the ground.


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