[tlhIngan Hol] Are arabic numerals canon ?

Steven Boozer sboozer at uchicago.edu
Fri Aug 11 07:40:16 PDT 2017

From the Bird of Prey poster:

  wejvatlh loSmaH loS vI' vagh wej 'uj 'aD Duj
  Length: 120 M

  loSmaH jav vI' Soch loS 'uj 'ab meH
  Bridge Height: 16.28 M

  HIvtaHvIS toQDuj cha'vatlh wejmaH Soch vI' vagh chorgh 'uj 'ab 'oH
  Attack Formation Height: 82.75 M

  qughtaHvIS toQDuj HutmaH vI' jav wa' 'uj 'ab 'oH
  Cruise Formation Height: 31.56 M

  SaqtaHvIS toQDuj wa'vatlh loS vI' jav chorgh 'uj 'ab 'oH
  Landing Formation Height: 36.46 M

  cha' vI' vagh choQmey lutoghlu'
  Number of Decks: 2.5

  cha' choQmey naQ tu'lu' 'ej tep choQ bIngDaq lo' law' bID choQ tu'lu')
  2 Full Decks and a Half Utility Deck under the Cargo Deck)

  wejvatlh SochmaH vagh SaD cheb'a'mey ngI' Duj
  Mass: 8.7 KT

  Hong boq chuyDaH: loS
  Impulse Fusion Thrusters - 4

  muDDaq 'eDSeHcha lulaQlu'bogh: jav
  Atmospheric Take-Off/Landing Thrusters - 6

  pIvchem lIngwI' DaHmey: cha'
  Warp Field Generation Arrays - 2

  pIvchem SeHwI': cha'
  Warp Field Controller - 2

  qughDo motlh: pIvlob vagh
  Normal Cruising Speed - Warp 5

Okrand gives all the {tlhIngan Hol} in full words  so that people know how to SAY the numbers and phrases.  E.g. How do you say “2.5”? Answer:  {cha’ vI’ vagh} using {vI’} “decimal point” not {DoD} “mark (in coordinates).  He’s never said that a technically advanced, space-faring civilization doesn’t have numerals.  In fact he’s used numerals in the Monopoly game:

  voHDajbo' wellu' 200 [140, etc.]
  Mortgaged for 200.

  ngIq raQ – 200 QaS, mon – 200 QaS loS raQmey je
  Outposts cost 200 each; capitals, 200 each plus 4 outposts

  ngIq raQ - 150 QaS
  "outposts cost 150 each"

  ngIq raQvaD cha'maH vagh QaS yInob.
  "For each outpost pay 25 forces."

  ngIq gholvo' wa'maH QaS yItlhap.
  "Collect 10 forces from every player."

… and in his HolQeD 9.3 [Sept. 2000] article on simple arithmetic:

  4 + 3 = 7
  wej boq loS; chen Soch
  "four allies with three; seven forms".
  2 + 1 = 3
  wa' boq cha'; chen wej
  "two allies with one, three forms."
  4 - 3 = 1
  loS boqHa' wej; chen wa'
  "three dissociates from four, one forms"

  2 x 3 = 6
  cha'logh boq'egh wej; chen jav
  "twice, three allies with itself, six forms"
  3 x 2
  wejlogh boq'egh cha'
  "three times, two allies with itself"

  6/3 = 2
  wejlogh boqHa''egh jav; chen cha'
  "three times, six dissociates from itself, two forms"

From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces at lists.kli.org] On Behalf Of mayqel qunenoS
> The Bird of Prey poster is rife with numbers. All of them are
> spelled out in Klingon.

When you say "spelled out in klingon", you mean that they are written in pIqaD ?


On 11 Aug 2017 5:11 pm, "ghunchu'wI' 'utlh" <qunchuy at alcaco.net<mailto:qunchuy at alcaco.net>> wrote:
On Aug 11, 2017, at 4:34 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com<mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>> wrote:
> However, I anxiously await for our honorable Ca'non master to decloak his bird of prey,...

The Bird of Prey poster is rife with numbers. All of them are spelled out in Klingon.

-- ghunchu'wI'

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