[tlhIngan Hol] Reversing the order of {-vo'}

SuStel sustel at trimboli.name
Thu Aug 10 09:13:50 PDT 2017

On 8/10/2017 11:43 AM, De'vID wrote:
> On Aug 10, 2017 17:06, "SuStel" <sustel at trimboli.name 
> <mailto:sustel at trimboli.name>> wrote:
>     On 8/10/2017 10:38 AM, De'vID wrote:
>         How would you write "he returns from the great hall at the
>         Federation
>         command centre on Earth"?
>     tera' DIvI' ra'ghom qach vaS'a'vo' chegh
>     ghunchu'wI' is right: you can't put those type 5 suffixes in the
>     middle of this.
> Why not? It's not a noun-noun construction, it's a chain of locatives. 
> I think multiple locatives is like multiple adverbials: there hasn't 
> been a canon example, but nothing forbids it (unless there's a rule 
> I've overlooked).

You wrote:

    *[vaS'a']vo' [tera'Daq DIvI' ra'ghom qach]Daq chegh**
    **[tera'Daq DIvI' ra'ghom qachDaq vaS'a']vo' chegh*

Your brackets show locatives and froms affecting entire phrases that 
include other locatives or froms. This is exactly what the noun-noun 
restriction prohibits. You can't say this any more than you can say 
*mIvDaq yIHvo'*//to mean /from the tribble [that is] in the helmet./ The 
phrase **mIvDaq yIH* itself is illegal. A syntactic noun cannot be the 
genitive to a head noun. At best, *mIvDaq yIHvo'* can mean /in the 
helmet, from the tribble,/ but there is absolutely no connection (no 
genitive relationship) between the tribble and the helmet. The two words 
might happen to sit next to each other in a larger sentence, but they 
have no direct relationship.


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