[tlhIngan Hol] Hoch and HochHom variations

mayqel qunenoS mihkoun at gmail.com
Thu Aug 3 07:44:01 PDT 2017


SuStel:
> HochHom chab means exactly the same thing as HochHom chabmey

Why is that ? I can't understand it.

qunnoq

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:22 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
> maj.
>
> I remember in the past, us having discussed the first group of
> Hoch/HochHom, i.e.:
>
> Hoch chab = each pie
> Hoch chabmey = all pies
> HochHom chabmey = almost all the pies
>
> chab Hoch = all the pie
> chab HochHom = almost all (of the) pie
>
> And having concluded, that even those which aren't canon make sense,
> and thus are valid.
>
> I wanted to ask about the three variations, of which I wrote in my
> original post (chabmey Hoch, HochHom chab, and chabmey HochHom), in
> case there was something I was missing.
>
> qatlho' SuStel !
>
> qunnoq
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:38 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
>> On 8/3/2017 5:53 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>>
>> Hoch chab = each pie
>> Hoch chabmey = all pies
>> HochHom chabmey = almost all the pies
>>
>>
>> HochHom thing(s) = almost all of the things is not found in canon, but I
>> think no one would find it exceptional.
>>
>>
>> chab Hoch = all the pie
>> chab HochHom = almost all (of the) pie
>>
>>
>> thing HochHom = almost all of the thing is found in canon; thing Hoch = all
>> of the thing is not. The latter is an extrapolation based on the former.
>>
>>
>> Would the following make sense ? Would they actually mean anything,
>> and if yes then what ?
>>
>> chabmey Hoch
>> HochHom chab
>> chabmey HochHom
>>
>> You're asking about explicit plural suffixes or their lack. The answer is we
>> don't know.
>>
>> If I had to guess, I'd guess that chabmey Hoch pies' allness refers to the
>> totality of the group of pies (rather than to the pies themselves), HochHom
>> chab means exactly the same thing as HochHom chabmey, and chabmey HochHom
>> pies' almost-allness refers to the not-quite-totality of the group of pies.
>>
>> --
>> SuStel
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>>
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