[tlhIngan Hol] Sentence as object using {'oH}

[mayqel qunenoS]

SuStel:
> Your original subject line is “Sentence as object using *‘oH*.”

Yes it is, but that's because the original sentence of the thread seemed to
me as "a sentence as object using {'oH}"; not because I was trying to bend
the rules, so as to create a sao with an {'oH}, instead of {'e'}.

Anyway, thanks for answering and clarifying this matter.

SuStel, reH choQaHmo' qatlho', 'ej tlho'wIj Daghaj.

qunnoq

On Aug 22, 2017 5:23 PM, "SuStel" <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:

> Your original subject line is “Sentence as object using *‘oH*.”
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> Your original sentence, without *‘e’,* is not correct. In the *A pro B’e’
> *construction, A and B are nouns or noun phrases, not sentences.
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> The proposed version with *‘e’ *might be technically correct, but I have
> a hard time believing Klingons use verb-acting pronouns in
> sentence-as-object constructions. The final verb in an SAO should generally
> be something simple and unexceptional.
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> --
> SuStel
> http://trimboli.name
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> *From: *mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 22, 2017 9:27 AM
> *To: *tlhingan-hol at kli.org
> *Subject: *Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Sentence as object using {'oH}
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> SuStel:
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> > Why are you twisting in knots trying to use a sentence as
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> > object with a pronoun?
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> I'm not trying to use a sentence as object with a pronoun. I'm trying
> however to understand what is right and what is wrong.
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> The initial sentence of the thread, the {chabHommeylIj Sopta' vIghro'wIj
> 'oH vIt'e'}, was written by me, and I posted here because I was wondering
> (and still am), with regards to whether it is a valid/correct sentence.
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> The second sentence, the {chabHommeylIj Sopta' vIghro'wIj 'e' 'oH vIt'e'},
> was written by Antony Appleyard and I asked because I was wondering (and
> still am), whether it is correct.
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> I'm not trying to create new rules, or extract new rules from the existing
> ones, but if I don't ask then I will never learn.
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> qunnoq
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> On Aug 22, 2017 3:54 PM, "SuStel" <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
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> Why are you twisting in knots trying to use a sentence as object with a
> pronoun?
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>
> chabHommeylIj Sopbejta' vIghro'wIj
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> --
> SuStel
> http://trimboli.name
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> *From: *mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 22, 2017 8:00 AM
> *To: *tlhingan-hol at kli.org
> *Subject: *Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Sentence as object using {'oH}
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> De'vID:
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> > What is the object of {'oH}?
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> I think it is the sentence which precedes it. I think it is the
> {chabHommeylIj Sopta' vIghro'wIj}.
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> Antony Appleyard:
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> > {chabHommeylIj Sopta' vIghro'wIj 'e' 'oH vIt'e'}
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> Is {chabHommeylIj Sopta' vIghro'wIj 'e' 'oH vIt'e'} correct ?
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> qunnoq
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