[tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: matlhHa'

mayqel qunenoS mihkoun at gmail.com
Mon Sep 19 08:38:07 PDT 2016


It always pisses me off, to read canon sentences which make no sense ;

> matlhHa'lu'chugh vaj Doghlu' 'e' yaymeH molor

the way I understand the use of the suffix {-lu'}, and the way we have
discussed it here so many months, it is used to mean that "someone
does something to someone" ; not that "someone does something period".
For the latter purpose we use {vay'}; not {-lu'}.

If I want to say "someone confuses me" I will say {vImISmoHlu'}, and
if I want to say "someone is confused" I will write {mIS vay'}. I
can't write {mISlu'} meaning that "someone is confused".

At the aforementioned jay' sentence we obviously have a meaning which
goes something like "if someone is disloyal then someone is
foolish..", and in order to describe this intended meaning we see the
words {matlhHa'lu'chugh} and {Doghlu'} respectively.

Are we serious ?

And as if this crap wasn't enough we have {..yaymeH molor} ! wejpuH..
{yay} (n) = victory,triumph. So, are we applying verb suffixes to
nouns nowadays ?

But ok, ok.. I'll accept that the intended meaning word was {yay'} (v)
= to be shocked, dumbfounded. And in that case we have this glorious
canon sentence taking the meaning "if someone is disloyal then someone
is foolish. molor in order to be shocked that"

oh, how illuminating for a canon sentence..

moving on..

> qorDu' SaHlu'chugh 'ej matlhlu'chugh vaj wa' tlhIngan ghob potlhqu'

The {qorDu' SaHlu'chugh} is correct. But when it comes to the
{matlhlu'chugh} then again things make no sense. If the
{matlhlu'chugh} is used on its own in order to say "if someone is
loyal", then it is wrong. And if the {matlhlu'chugh} refers to the
{qorDu'}, then again we have the meaning "if someone cares for his
family, and if someone is loyal his family.."

wejpuH..

And as if all these weren't enough, when we read past the {vaj} the
sentence takes the meaning "then one (or one's) very important klingon
virtue" and then period. ?!?!?!

So, in today's canon sentences we come across the following two pearls:

1. if someone is disloyal then someone is foolish. molor in order to
be shocked that
2. if someone cares for his family, and if someone is loyal his family
then one (or one's) very important klingon virtue

And I will ask again.. Are we serious ? These are the kind of canon
sentences which are supposed to help people understand proper klingon
?

qunnoq

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:
>> Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, September 18, 2016
>>
>> Klingon word: matlhHa'
>> Part of speech: verb
>> Definition: be disloyal
>
> Qu' buSHa'chugh SuvwI', batlhHa' vangchugh, qoj
>   matlhHa'chugh, pagh ghaH SuvwI''e'
> If a warrior ignores duty, acts dishonorably, or
>   is disloyal, he is nothing. TKW
>
> matlhHa'; romuluSngan rur
> disloyal as a Romulan KGT
>
> matlhHa'lu'chugh vaj Doghlu' 'e' yaymeH molor
> [translation unavailable] (PB p.173)
>
>
> Cf. {matlh} "be loyal" (v):
>
> qorDu' SaHlu'chugh 'ej matlhlu'chugh vaj wa'
>  tlhIngan ghob potlhqu'
> devotion and loyalty to family is one of the most
>  important Klingon virtues. S13
>
> matlh SuvwI'pu'
> Warriors are loyal. KGT
>
> yoHbogh matlhbogh je SuvwI' Say'moHchu' may' 'Iw
> The blood of battle washes clean the warrior brave
>  and true. (Anthem)
>
> yab matlh muvchuqghach Sorgh vay' 'e' vIbotjaj.
> Let me not to the marriage of true minds admit
>  impediments. (Sonnet 116)
>
> SEE ALSO:
> magh    betray, act against
> 'ur             commit treason
> Daw'            revolt
> choS            desert
> QuS             conspire
> yuD             be dishonest
>
> 'Il             be sincere
> yuDHa'  be honest
>
>
> --
> Voragh
> tlhIngan ghantoH pIn'a'
> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
>
>
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