[tlhIngan Hol] jeS

[Steven Boozer]

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>> The verb {jeS} ("participate") does not take an object. It generally
>> is in a phrase following a phrase saying what the subject of {jeS} is
>> participating in.  All of the following can be translated as "I
>> participate in the qepHom," though the literal meaning of each is
>> distinct:
>>
>> qaStaHvIS qepHom jIjeS "While the qepHom is happening, I participate"
>> qaS qepHom 'ej jIjeS   "The qepHom is happening, and I participate"
>> qaS qepHom vaj jIjeS   "The qepHom is happening, so I participate"
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mayqel qunenoS:
> > I need to comment that in the aforementioned examples, there is an
> > ambiguity. Someone says something along the lines of "while this
> > happens" and continues by "I will participate". It does not specify
> > that "he will participate to THAT event".

Lieven: 
> I'm not so sure about that. Okrand said "It generally is in a phrase
> following a phrase saying what the subject of jeS is participating in."
> 
> So when a person says "I participate" after mentioning an event, at least
> in Klingon it's quite clear.
> 
> Also in english, when a person says "There's a comic con tonight. I am
> going." Nobody would wonder where he is going to (unless he want to behave
> as a smartass).
> 
> tugh qaS qepHom'a'. bIjeS'a'?
> "Are you attending the qepHom'a' next month?"
> 
> wa'Hu' bom moqwI'pu'. jeS vaghSaD nuvpu'.
> "The beatles had a concert yesterday with 5,000 visitors."
> 
> tachDaq Suv tlhInganpu'. jeS jav.
> "six Klingons participate in a bar fight"

I have a feeling that {SaH} "be present (not absent)" and {Dach} "be absent" also work like {jeS}.  There are no examples of {SaH} AFAIK, but there are two for {Dach}:  

  qaStaHvIS wanI'vam yIDachQo' 
  Don't miss this event!  (WSC)

  Dach Hoch SuvwI'pu' Hem 
  All proud warriors were gone (PB)

Note the WSC example:  "While this event is happening, don't be absent!"  

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Voragh

P.S. WSC = Washington Shakespeare Company's "By Any Other Name: An Evening of Shakespeare in Klingon" (2010)