[tlhIngan Hol] [English] Using "pong" as a verb to say "my name is..." ?

André Müller esperantist at gmail.com
Thu Oct 6 07:03:43 PDT 2016


Hm, why only for first and second person? I don't have my KGT at hand right
now, but I think in those situations where a third person object is
actually marked on the verb by a prefix, the prefix trick (aka dative
shift) should be possible, shouldn't it?

Cf.:
Situation: The soldiers will give you (e.g. their prisoner) to the emperor.
{ghaHvaD SoH nInob.} = They give you to him.
{SoH lunob.} = They give him you.

Y'all seem to have excluded this variant. Did Okrand explicitly rule this
out or state that the prefix trick only works for 1st and 2nd person? Or
was it an assumption?

- André

2016-10-06 15:14 GMT+02:00 mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com>:

> De'vID:
> > tIqwIj Sa'angnIS
>
> "I need to show you (plural) my heart". Since I see no ambiguity here,
> I'll take that as a "yes", and add to my notes that the prefix trick can be
> used for first and second person plural objects as well.
>
> If I'm wrong in this conclusion, then someone please do correct me.
>
> qunnoH
> I love you all
>
> On 6 Oct 2016 4:07 p.m., "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6 October 2016 at 14:24, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > the prefix trick is used only for first and second person singular
>> object,
>> > or it can be used for first and second person plural object as well ?
>>
>> tIqwIj Sa'angnIS.
>>
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