[tlhIngan Hol] [English] Using "pong" as a verb to say "my name is..." ?

[mayqel qunenoS]

ghunchu'wI':
> Some of us think of the "prefix trick" as
> somehow lazy. It's not described in The
> Klingon Dictionary, and it seems in real life to
> have evolved as a too-close translation of
> certain English phrasings.

I don't like the prefix trick either, but because 'oqranD has canonized it
we have no option than shut up and accept it.

It is hypocritical (and that's an understatement), when someone strays from
canon to execute him on the spot, but when another uses perfectly valid
canon, to say "it's lazy, don't do it".

It's the same hypocrisy which surrounds the use of {-ghach}. Although it is
canon, the instinctive "fatherly" advice is "shut up, don't use it".

And this lame situation, is the best motivation for someone to do his
homework in order to learn the language, thus being able to choose his own
way..

It's not only tribbles one needs to avoid; it's lame suggestions and
advices as well.

qunnoq
ghogh HablI'wIjvo' vIngeHta'

On 4 Oct 2016 11:41 a.m., "Aurélie Demonchaux" <demonchaux.aurelie at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks a lot ghunchu'wI' for clarifying, it all makes sense to me now and
> I'll keep it in mind when practicing the language :)
>
> -- mughwI'
>
> 2016-10-04 1:10 GMT+02:00 Alan Anderson <qunchuy at alcaco.net>:
>
>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Aurélie Demonchaux
>> <demonchaux.aurelie at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 1/ Regarding “Quvar vIponglu’”:
>> >>
>> >> That works fine, though some people consider it extremely informal
>> usage.
>> >
>> > ok thanks for confirming this! Just to check, is there a canon
>> reference on
>> > this being informal, stating that the prefix trick and / or <-lu’>
>> suffix
>> > make the sentence informal, or is it more an opinion / deduction that
>> some
>> > Klingon linguists have formed based on their knowledge of the language?
>>
>> There is nothing officially published that labels it as informal. It's
>> mostly a matter of a long-established preference in this discussion
>> forum for strict grammatical forms when teaching Klingon. Some of us
>> think of the "prefix trick" as somehow lazy. It's not described in The
>> Klingon Dictionary, and it seems in real life to have evolved as a
>> too-close translation of certain English phrasings.
>>
>> It's perfectly valid grammar, and those who consider themselves fluent
>> (or nearly so) in Klingon won't have a problem understanding it. I
>> probably went too far using the word "extremely", and for that I
>> apologize.
>>
>> -- ghunchu'wI'
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