[tlhIngan Hol] A ridiculous event

SuStel sustel at trimboli.name
Wed Nov 23 08:06:18 PST 2016

On 11/23/2016 10:44 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
> jIH:
> > jIHaDchoHta'DI'
> SuStel:
> > jIHaDchoHDI'
> I was trying to express "as soon as I had started studying", trying to 
> give emphasis to the fact that "my starting" had been completed. But 
> now I wonder: In the {jIHaDchoHta'DI'}, is it possible for the {-ta'} 
> to refer to the {-choH}, or does it exclusively refer to the verb ?

Saying *jIHaDchoHDI'* doesn't mean the starting of your studying is 
incomplete.**It does mean that studying has started. Although it isn't 
described this way in /TKD,/ *-choH* is a kind of aspect just like 
*-pu', -taH,* and the other type 7s are. Aspect describes how an action 
behaves over time. *-choH* describes the action as suddenly starting, 
then continuing from that point. Combining *-choH* and *-DI'* is enough 
to say "as soon as this starting point arrives."

Whether *-ta'* must refer to only the verb or can be applied to the 
*-choH* is not a settled issue, but I don't think you need to resolve it 
to say what you're trying to say. You're interested in a starting point, 
not a stopping point. *-ta'* describes a stopping point; *-choH* 
describes a starting point.

Or to look at it another way: at what point do you finish starting? Can 
you point to the moment that *-DI'* points to, when the starting is 
completed and something else happens?


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