[tlhIngan Hol] Can we have the {-be'} twice ?

mayqel qunenoS mihkoun at gmail.com
Wed Nov 16 06:47:01 PST 2016

if it helps to take a stroll down memory lane..

the original {jIghelbe'choHlaHbe'}, (which sparked this thread), was
written by Qov as a reply to one of my -kahless knows- numerous questions.

she was trying to show me, how to say something like "I'm not able to stop
myself from asking".

back then, being more of a beginner than I'm now, I didn't notice the two
{-be'} on the same word. this happened only today, and the confusion

now, since Qov is an expert I don't think she would have written this word,
if the two {-be'} weren't actually allowed.

however, it surprises me that noone else has ever used such a construction,
at least not during the 14 months I've been here..

why doesn't someone send a mail to okrand in order to verify ? after all
this regards something which took place at the qepHom.

ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

On 16 Nov 2016 4:20 pm, "Ed Bailey" <bellerophon.modeler at gmail.com> wrote:

> jatlh Lieven:
>> TKD further says that {-be'} "follows the concept being negated". If I
>> take this literally, I could probably use it nine times one a verb with
>> nine sufixes:
>> {jIghelbe'choHbe'laHbe'taHbe'} "I am not continously not able to not
>> change not asking"
>> What context would prompt you to form a verb like this? Even with your
> explanation, no matter how often I read the word (well, about 8 times so
> far), I still get lost by the end.
> Multiple negation becomes confusing very quickly (in any language, I
> expect).
> But even if we find out it's definitely ungrammatical, using multiple -qu'
> for added emphasis seems like one of those intentional violations Klingons
> use for effect. I could say something like be'nalwI' SoS pI'qu'qu'!
> (Actually this statement is very false, but I was thinking of an old joke.)
> ~mIp'av
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