[tlhIngan Hol] What do you make of this ?

[SuStel]

KLINGON FOR THE GALACTIC TRAVELER (I'm reading from a Kindle app; I 
don't have a page number) tells us that a form of intentional 
ungrammaticality allows us to substitute various good/bad words for 
{law'} and {puS}. It's a long passage; I don't want to the whole thing here.

You can say something like:

SorDaq vIghro' vIleghbogh law' HoS chalDaq vIghro' vIleghbogh law' puj

It means exactly the same thing as the standard form, but it's an 
acknowledged way of bending the rules. In various contexts it may or may 
not be considered appropriate language. You wouldn't use it in more 
formal contexts.


On 11/22/2016 11:03 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
> ok, thanks.
>
> now, going back to andre's suggestion I would like to ask: how can the
> {HoS} and {puj} express the "more" and "less" cats/birds ?
>
> qunnoH
> ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
>
> On 22 Nov 2016 5:20 pm, "SuStel" <sustel at trimboli.name
> <mailto:sustel at trimboli.name>> wrote:
>>
>> No. You've left out the {vIleghbogh}.
>>
>> SorDaq vIghro' vIleghbogh law' law' chalDaq bo'Degh vIleghbogh law' puS.
>>
>>
>> On 11/22/2016 10:18 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>>>
>>> if I wrote:
>>>
>>> SorDaq vIghro' law' law', chalDaq bo'Degh law' puS
>>>
>>> would this be correct ?
>>>
>>> qunnoH
>>> ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22 Nov 2016 4:49 pm, "SuStel" <sustel at trimboli.name
> <mailto:sustel at trimboli.name>
>>> <mailto:sustel at trimboli.name <mailto:sustel at trimboli.name>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     "I see more cats in the tree than birds in the sky."
>>>
>>>     Perfectly understandable. One might question whether you see cats
>>>     that are in a tree or you are in a tree when you see cats, and
>>>     similarly for birds, but Okrand has said this sort of ambiguity
>>>     exists in Klingon, and is comparable to English's "I shot an
>>>     elephant in my pajamas."
>>>
>>>     In both your sentences so far, the {-'e'} has been allowed, but
>>>     unnecessary.
>>>
>>>     Using words other than {law'} and {puS} in a comparison sentence is
>>>     considered wordplay, not slang.
>>>
>>>     On 11/22/2016 9:35 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>>>
>>>         maj ! so now, lets take this a bit further.
>>>
>>>         SorDaq vIghro''e' vIleghbogh law' law', chalDaq bo'Degh'e'
>>>         vIleghbogh
>>>         law' puS.
>>>
>>>         what do you think of this ? same questions: does it makes sense
>>>         ? is it
>>>         grammatical ?
>>>
>>>         qunnoH
>>>         ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
>>>
>>>
>>>         On 22 Nov 2016 4:27 pm, "André Müller" <esperantist at gmail.com
> <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com>
>>>         <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com>>
>>>         <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com>
> <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com>>>>
>>>
>>>         wrote:
>>>
>>>             = I see more cats than birds.
>>>
>>>             Yes, I understand it and would say it makes sense and is
>>>             grammatical. Because {law' law'} is a bit weird, maybe you
>>>         could use
>>>             {HoS} and {puj} instead, but that would be considered slang.
>>>
>>>             - André
>>>
>>>
>>>             2016-11-22 15:15 GMT+01:00 mayqel qunenoS
> <mihkoun at gmail.com <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>
>>>         <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>>
>>>             <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>
> <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>>>>:
>>>
>>>
>>>                 vIghro''e' vIleghbogh law' law', bo'Degh'e' vIleghbogh
>>>         law' puS.
>>>
>>>                 is this acceptable ? does it make sense ?
>>>
>>>                 qunnoH
>>>                 ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'


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