[tlhIngan Hol] Expressing "one of them"
mayqel qunenoS
mihkoun at gmail.com
Mon Nov 21 08:10:46 PST 2016
qatlho'qu' voragh ! choQaHta'mo' ghe''or vInarghpu' ! hehehe
qunnoH
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
On 21 Nov 2016 5:16 pm, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:
> I wouldn’t. Just rely on context. E.g.
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> *wa' yIHoH*. *jISaHbe’.*
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> Kill one of them. I don't care which. ST3
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> * wa' yIHoH*
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> Kill one (of them)! TKD
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> (TKD 54): The preceding sentence is grammatically correct even without
> the {*wa'}* because the prefix {*yI*-} indicates a singular object. The {
> *wa'}*, therefore, is used for emphasis only.
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> There are other examples which could easily have had “of them” added to
> the translation with no real change in meaning:
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> * maDo'chugh QeHchoH wa' *
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> If we're lucky, one [of them] will get angry. CK
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> * wa' ghaH tera'ngan'e' *
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> One [of them] is a Terran. (ST5 notes)
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> * wa' SuvwI' muHlu'DI'*, *tuHchoH Hoch SuvwI'pu'*
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> The execution of but one warrior brings shame to
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> all [of them]. TKW
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> If you need to distinguish between two groups – and context doesn’t make
> it clear which you’re referring to -- you can (colloquially) topicalize one
> (of them!). E.g.
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> romuluSngan qa’ma’pu’’e’… wa’ yIHoH! ‘ach qarDaSnganpu’ tIyu’!
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> As for the Romulan prisoners… kill one (of them). But interrogate the
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> Cardassians.
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> Or just simply:
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> wa’ romuluSngan qa’ma’ yIHoH.
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> Kill one Romulan prisoner.
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> Kill one of the Romulan prisoners.
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> Presumably there is more than one prisoner, else why use a number? You’d
> simply say:
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> romuluSngan qa’ma’ yIHoH.
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> Kill the Romulan prisoner.
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> Don’t fixate on the precise wording of the English. There is often more
> than one correct translation.
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> -- Voragh
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> *On Behalf Of *mayqel qunenoS
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 7:14 AM
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> qaStaHvIS tuch Hoch, jISIvtaH: {chaH wa'} vIlo'chugh, "one of them"
> vIDellaH ?for all eternity, I will be wondering.. is the {chaH wa'} able to
> describe the "one of them" ?
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> qunnoH
> ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
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> On 20 Nov 2016 7:44 pm, "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Would you accept {chaH wa' jIHbe'} for "I am not one of them" ?
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> qunnoH
> ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
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