[tlhIngan Hol] Expressing "must"
SuStel
sustel at trimboli.name
Wed Nov 16 12:52:06 PST 2016
On 11/16/2016 3:44 PM, Alan Anderson wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:05 AM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name
> <mailto:sustel at trimboli.name>> wrote:
>
> Now, if someone wants to pull up a few instances of *-nIS* being
> used where an agency is imposing an action and consequences of
> failure on the subject, and not just instances where the English
> translation uses /must,/ I'll be happy to revise my opinion.
>
> I thought of one such example immediately, but I didn't respond
> because I expected it to have been in the list presented by André. Now
> that I've had time to read the rest of the thread, I see he didn't
> include it.
>
> From Conversational Klingon: {vagh rep bImejnIS} "Checkout time is 5 am."
>
> That certainly counts as an imposed requirement, even if a penalty for
> noncompliance is not explicitly stated.
Yes, that's definitely a valid example of a "must" form of *-nIS*.
> There's also {lupwI' DalIghnIS} "You must ride the jitney." I think it
> too is a relevant example, but I can accept someone disagreeing with
> that assessment..
I agree that it's likely a valid example, and I can see why it might be
controversial as one. It's in response to the question, *pa'
jIyIt'a'*/do I walk there? /(which is translated /can I walk there?/).
It could go either way.
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SuStel
http://trimboli.name
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